# Thread: The 1/3/2012 Facebook Clue: 12:00 high

1. Expert Twelever TwelevePlus
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The latest clue on the Facebook site, to me, leads the puzzler straight to an anagram.

If the 'solution' in his clue is the sequence 1 - 20, or the letters A to T, perhaps the 'no anagram' applies to that aspect, as opposed to each individual step along the way?

2. Originally Posted by Doc
The latest clue on the Facebook site, to me, leads the puzzler straight to an anagram.

If the 'solution' in his clue is the sequence 1 - 20, or the letters A to T, perhaps the 'no anagram' applies to that aspect, as opposed to each individual step along the way?
Except that an individual step is part of the MAKING of the solution.

Besides, why would they issue a "clarifying clue" that makes things more confusing? That just doesn't make sense.

"NO ANAGRAMS WERE USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS SOLUTION" seems to say to me that no anagrams were used in the making of this solution, and that if anyone so much as THINKS about using the word "anagram" in any part of their rationalization for anything dealing with chapter 1, they are wrong.

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'12:00 high was just a little bit late.'

'Look before the jeep.'

These are amazingly good clues, and the author is trying to point us towards solving the chapter 1 map, but he didn't include examples of these sorts of associative puzzles in the 240 questions, and that's too bad. This is the same sort of puzzle as the invisible ink clue--the author expects us to derive several things from very little.

Lobster, your tongue-in-cheek response illustrates part of the problem with these sorts of puzzles, and I can definitely see how some folks are gonna have a really hard time with them.

Let me try to illustrate the problem:

As part of a routine mental status exam, one of the questions we ask is this: 'What's the similarity between an apple and an orange?' The 'right' answer is 'they're both types of fruit'. However, sometimes we get answers such as this: 'They both have billions and billions of molecules.' Or, 'My children play with both of them'.

Technically, these may both be 'correct' statements, but they're not the 'right' answer.

The puzzles we're going to encounter on our way to solving a chapter map have 'right' answers to them. From what I've seen, figuring out you're 'right' has two objective parts:

1. It has to have a confirmer.
2. It has to contain instructions for the next step.

Consider the latest clue, 'Look before the jeep.'

1. Firstly, you have to realize it's utilizing information from another source, namely the optic cross clues for chapter 1. 'What doesn't belong?' and 'Look for the jeep.'

So, when you follow the instructions to 'look before the jeep', the thing that is before the jeep clue is 'What doesn't belong'?

2. 'What doesn't belong' here?

LOOK FOR THE JEEP
LOOK BEFORE THE JEEP

The word BEFORE. You get a confirmer that you might be doing it correctly because BEFORE is now a homophone puzzle: B 4, or 24 = X.

Whatever we're doing should be related to an 'X'.

3. The next step involves the invisible ink clue: first = last. The 'jeep' in question for chapter 1 is a CHEROKEE, and it has a first = last association.

CHEROKEE is the last word of the first paragraph.

4. Put it all together: LOOK BEFORE THE JEEP. What doesn't belong in the first paragraph? The answer you get should be related to an 'X'.

And it IS an anagram, and it's the 'right' answer, regardless how one interprets the 'no anagram' business.

Doc

PS--This is NOT the map solution. It's a necessary piece of the puzzle to get started.

4. Well it's hard to argue with that.

I sure hope I never have to take one of your mental status exams!

5. Me neither. Apples and oranges grow on trees.

6. Apples and oranges both have skin.
Apples and oranges are both in plural form.
Apples and oranges both have two vowels each.
Apples and oranges both contains seeds.
Apples and oranges both grow on trees.
Apples and oranges are both easily digested.
Apples and oranges can both be thrown.
Apples and oranges both contain pectin.
Apples and oranges are both edible.
Apples and oranges are both round.
Apples and oranges are both fruit.
Apples and oranges both need photosynthesis to grow.
Apples and oranges are frequently made into juice.
Apples and oranges are two of the U.S.'s major exports.
Apples and oranges are often decorative pieces.

7. Or, it could refenece "Look Before You Leap..." Apples and Oranges both have an A & an E. May have nothing to do with what they really are at all. _ Just an observation for I no worky on thisy. Cheers!

8. BTW, the real answer to the question "What is the similarity between apples and oranges?" is "There are many similarities", or "This is a stupid and misleading question because there is more than one similarity".

9. " Apples and oranges both have two vowels each."

Er, that one's wrong, but you get the point

10. Jeep could be the old military designation of GP (general purpose). Since there are no drawing or photos of a Jeep in the book, and the only reference to a Jeep is the Cherokee (Cherro-KEY), maybe there is something else hidden out there in the book