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    Default the brick wall

    I, like many people in this hunt, hit the brick wall. I over-analyzed the clues and picked up on a lot of mini clues on the way and feel that I've exposed some symmetry. This eventually led to some grouping of clues and further frustration. In doing this, I discovered *many* of the secrets of this puzzle. I can't even talk about any of them at this point or how I did it. I'm sure I have the pieces some people(maybe those 20) need. Problem is.. I literally did this puzzle backwards and not the way that was intended. This is terribly frustrating because I know where the answer leads...literally, but in the spirit of the hunt I'll keep trying to correct my answer until I get it right.

    I have no help in this quest, my family thinks I'm silly, but I do this while they watch TV, so I hope to prove them wrong.. if not this chapter then maybe another.

    Don't give up, it a wonderful puzzle, and Ive enjoyed it

    It may help to read the whole chapter again after you've acquired new clues once in a while...this did help me. With that in mind, I think I might read it again

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    Yes, it is indeed a wonderful puzzle.

    The Lobsters have some new life as a recent clue helped revive and improve one of our old theories.

    No idea how close we are, but at least we now have something to work on.

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    sometimes I think I'd rather spend time roaming around the great western northwoods looking for cooper's cash!

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    I figured out the clues and what to do with them. All that did was verify that what I had already figured out during brick wall was practically correct anyways. So rather than go through all the puzzles I figured I was close. And all of the connections between my clues and answers make sense to me. I'm imagining that the author is probably finding some of my map submissions rather amusing. I think I am down to just one or two errors, but they are difficult to find for reasons that are hard to explain. I believe I've cracked the hardest part of the puzzle accidentally...and am now looking for a minor mistake, but who knows. I could be totally wrong.

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    go gizmo !

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    I actually hope you can solve this thing quickly gizmo so that I can stop trying. I'd like to move on to a fresh chapter

    That said, our approach sounds very similar to what you describe above. Our problem is that we've been unable to determine what is 100% a true intended clue, and what's just unintended, coincidental, relationships. Some of the clues are "obvious" if you know what you're looking for. Others are very open to interpretation -- as to both whether they're clues, and what something means unambiguously if you know it's a clue.

    The result has been that while we have a good idea about certain things, we are running into too many conflicting "clues", where one set of information implies one ordering, and a different set implies another. It's making it very difficult to narrow things down in a decisive fashion.

    I'm starting to think that this is going to be a long, painful process unless we find a consistent process that applies to all sequences.

    The "middle" of our current best solution is very tenuous and contradictory.

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    ok, well to elaborate a little without giving much away. I spent a bunk-load of time organizing my clues as groups. I started very heavily with the chapter question number, the letter it represents, the key words of note in each question and answer, and variations of any of the ciphers that were used in the chapter on those items. I used only ciphers suggested in the clues and questions. Not only do the clues group for me, but I can sense the levels of the puzzle involved. Realizing that I have some sequence from this that tells me where to go...go look at Q7. Did I bypass this cipher..and if I did, should I encrypt instead of decrypt? This is a troubling point for me. Also, in the symmetry...if something is supposed to go last...last of which...the whole thing, the first part, or the mini-first part of the total level lol.

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    Sounds like we have very different approaches after all. Our investigations so far have involved no ciphers at all. Of course, we could be completely and utterly wrong. It wouldn't be the first (or second or third) time.

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    have you received instructions for your first job?

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    Yes, the first job appears to be relatively straightforward.

    Do you have any idea how to complete the 2nd job? I think I understand both the job site and the relevant data required to complete the job, but am quite stuck in working out how to use that data to progress to any sort of solution.

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