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    Gizmo,

    There was a reason the author released the Golden Eagle Eye clues piecemeal. Each one of those is a 'first key' for the chapter 1 solution.

    AT = AT 10:00 in the morning
    ATE = H
    A TEN = A MORSE X
    A TEN _ 3 = X _ III

    Here's the thing I'm going to be looking at today: the Facebook rotational cipher clue.

    Do you think he went to all that trouble just to tell the reader the first letter was an 'A'? Especially since he was well along into the Golden Eagle Eye clue?

    There are some distinct peculiarities in that clue that haven't been explained.

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    Doc I love reading your ideas but i think you are over complicating things.

    There is a much more straight forward way to finding the first keys.

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    Guttom,

    My apologies--I wasn't suggesting this was a method to discover the first few spots on the map.

    I meant to imply that this clue, especially in the piecemeal release, contains hints about the underlying solution mechanism.

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    Ok I got you now Doc. This clue series is definitely the most important by far.

    Btw I do believe in the 3 key theory and I bet the dove key clue will come out tomorrow or next week.

    Since the omega key is only discussed in chapter 9(I think, it's been a long time since I read the whole book), and we are using the omega key to solve chapter 1, I think it's logical to say there is an omega key in each chapter, and if that's true then there is prolly a dove key and scratched out key as well.

    Although I'm not sure if they keys will be the same or be used in the same way in each chapter.only time will tell.

    Mark my words a dove key clue should be coming out soon IMO.

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    Doc,
    In all of my ideas and various cipher tries, the TEN and X are important. I'm on board with your latest idea, I can almost see it.
    The invisible ink clue is not straightforward. The fact that our middle key has morse as the cipher suggestion, is important. Our third key, the eagle, our symbol connecting to peace. YOJ
    If you atbash the eagle eye clue.. what does "03" mean?
    Caesar(ten) means something important in my solution as well.
    And don't forget AT TEN AM (A TEN M) at 10:00am _ morning...

    I haven't had any time this week, so I'm a few clues behind. I haven't submitted a sequence this week yet, guess I should do that soon. Might have some time tomorrow afternoon to give it a closer look.

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    Gizmo,

    It's not that complicated, and that sounds funny coming from me. Friday's clue has provided some breakthroughs that I'm trying to sort out.

    As others have correctly noted, 'By the time you've hit the mist' is a reference to the first line of the chapter.

    'At 10:00 in the morning' = AT 10 AM

    The author tells us this is in reference to heretofore unknown 'alpha key' that suggests something that is FIRST.

    Now, compare this to what the author has already told us are 'first keys': the golden eagle eye clues.

    AT
    ATE
    A TEN

    Do you know how ATE is equivalent to AM?

    Because A M = 1 - 13. Namely the FIRST HALF of an alphabet. And, what's the FIRST of HALF?

    ATE of course.

    There's a second part of this clue involving HIT the MIST, but that's for later.

    I took a last-minute trip to Baton Rouge because I found out the Cirque du Soleil was performing here, and I'll be back home later today.

    I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out how an Enigma code functions.

    Keep on truckin',

    Doc

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    Doc,

    Where did you get heretofore? This doesn't look quite right to me...?

    I don't think it is as simple as proposed. In fact, I don't think its a good idea to assume mist in the first sentence. There are multiple instances if you look harder. For instance, the fourth line has "was tmid" ..I see mist there too, and quite a few other places as well, either plain or out of order. (which could include reverse)

    I've been doing more thinking about the scratched out key and the invisible ink instructions. For the scratched out key, what is it? Or for that matter, which dove, omega, scratched out key is related to JOY, 01-20-05, ATE. The peace symbol has a circle in it too, so is it the third or Omega? Is our eagle meant to be the dove, because I'm doubting that a lot. My latest thoughts are the circle has to do with the order of the garter. I'll need to watch the davinci code to pick up on more details. I love the movie anyways, so it shouldn't be too hard

    I did discover that there is more poem 1/2. I thought at first it was the instructions I was looking for, and then realized it was just another clue. This is how the movie national treasure goes though...just another clue not leading to the next clue.

    I think we are getting stringed along with all these clues.. lots of people thinking they are correct all the time. There are lots of ways you could think "I've got it!" submit your sequence...and then be disappointed. Meant to create frustration and joy When I thought I was close, I even saw the sequence "give up yet" in there, so I know we are not close yet.

    After all, its encrypted! And we couldn't quite put our finger on it. Meanwhile Dan Cooper got away with it and there was no way to prove it, and the author got away with it too

    ....oh wait a second..... ha I don't know where you came up with that!! I understand what it might mean too, bt I can't say it till I think it through.

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    The author has posted on Facebook that he wishes no discussions about keys or anything else. I consider myself one of the worst offenders--absolutely no malice was intended on my part whatsoever.

    One of my greatest pleasures of these sorts of treasure hunts is the back-and-forth discussions that take place at tweleve and similar forums, whether people agree or throw rocks at my ideas. I just like sharing my excitement.

    However, I will certainly abide by the wishes of the author, and I'll cease and desist posting ideas.

    Wah.

    Keep on keepin' on,

    Doc

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    i dont think he was talking about having discussions or sharing ideas, just about posting actual sequences or parts of sequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guttom2 View Post
    i dont think he was talking about having discussions or sharing ideas, just about posting actual sequences or parts of sequences.
    Look lets just be honest about a couple of thing.

    1) We are all super competitive and want to win and no one blurts out a sequence with our submitting it (and several variants on the same theory) to the web page first.

    2) You could completely reveal the complete and final answer and no one will believe you until you have a picture of you putting the silver eagle into your very own safe deposit box. As proven by our constant ability to disagree on even the most simple clues.
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