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    The clue says if you've reached the starting line, you've already gone TOO FAR. That's a wordplay puzzle.

    2 FAR

    2F AR

    AR = 1-18. F=SIX=IS X

    TOO FAR = 2X 1-18

    If you managed to find the starting line, you've already gone TOO FAR. It's referring to a Freemason cipher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    The clue says if you've reached the starting line, you've already gone TOO FAR. That's a wordplay puzzle.

    2 FAR = 2F AR implies AR = 1-18. F=SIX=IS X implies TOO FAR = 2X 1-18 implies freemason

    If you managed to find the starting line, you've already gone TOO FAR. It's referring to a Freemason cipher.
    If we're going to allow that type of deduction, then I think my solution is better:

    TOO FAR

    Well, "too far" is telling us that the letters are transposed too far. Therefore we need to shift TOO FAR

    "The first" then tells us that it's a U we want, since T+1 = U
    "The second" then tells us that it's Q we want, since O+2 = Q
    "The third is equal to the first". So the third is "FIRST".

    But, we need to rearrange FIRST:

    FIRST = FI_ST (since we need a blank in the middle)
    We also know due to symmetry that we have to reverse the last (ST).
    So we get FITS

    Put them together and we have "UQFITS".

    But you missed one part of the puzzle. It says If "YOU'VE REACHED".
    Well, that's another "FIRST SPACE LAST". And we know to take the first and the last,
    or YD. But we need to flip it because of FIRST=LAST, so we get "DY"

    Our final string is "UQFITSDY".

    So what, you might say...

    Well, this is a cipher. Playfair to be precise.
    How do you decode it? We use our original key of course: "TOOFAR".

    So use ciphertext "UQFITSDY" key "TOOFAR"

    Do the decode and what do you get?

    "Spokane X".

    The treasure is hidden in Spokane, Washington.

    Where? Near the "starting line" of the famous Spokane Marathon of course, which is at Riverfront Park. Look under the jeep in the parking lot.

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    The point, I think, doc is that I could have buried that treasure under the Taj Mahal or under the Eiffel Tower or anywhere else in the world if I had wanted to, using your clues.

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    OMG - Love it. Thank you for a good chuckle.

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    Just to make clear... I'm not poking fun.

    Just trying to point out that when you make multi-level deductions using open ended clues, the probability of someone ending up with a Ron-intended result is close to zero. There are literally millions upon millions of ways to combine and apply your word puzzles and the 25+ clues in the hunt that you can, with enough creativity, make a single sentence say ANYTHING you want. It's worse when you're trying to make clues FIT a preconceived idea because you can of course make anything validate anything, and that just strengthens your belief that you're on the right path.

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    The first eagle is found in Seattle by the way.

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    or rather 250 miles in the radius of Seattle. Spokan is 280 miles according to google maps

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    By whom?
    Quote Originally Posted by guttom2 View Post
    The first eagle is found in Seattle by the way.

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    well we dont know yet as they havent released any info yet. but i do believe someone has won (Chapter 1 at least).

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    Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!

    Lobster,

    I completely agree with your assessment that open-ended questions can have a LOT of different, valid answers. That's one of the reasons they're difficult. But, I think the map solution is gonna be chock full of them. When the ONLY clue the author has given us is the Invisible Ink clue, which is most definitely a granddaddy of an open-ended clue, I can't help but think that's where we're headed.

    Let me ask the question a different way.

    One of the latest facebook clues is a rotational cipher: The sequence begins by encrypting what is before UXXXXXX.

    Ordinarily, this would be one of those dreaded open-ended cryptic clues that you LOVE so dearly.

    BUT, this one isn't as open-ended as some of the others.

    The author has established without a doubt that the map sequence begins as 1, 20, 5, 14.

    So, several questions:

    1. How do you reconcile this clue? The sequence begins as 1, 20, 5, 14 and certainly NOT 21, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24.

    2. The X's in a rotational cipher represent blanks. Indeed, in the context of the question, the X's appear to be blanks again. However, the other spaces in the clue were actual spaces, not X's. Are these blanks significant, or should they be treated in the same fashion as you consider the blank in the middle of the Invisible Ink clue should be treated?

    3. Is the UXXXXXX just a typographical error?

    4. Why would the author simply rehash what he has clearly established as the beginning of the map sequence with such a cryptic clue? Could he be attempting to impart new information?

    Keep on truckin',

    Doc

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    If my sequence is even partly correct and what I am assuming is true about the location site, someone will be traveling to a site known for great X-C Paragliding. But then again, My mind has traveled many, many roads trying to solve this.

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