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    Default The three keys again

    Finding, using and interpreting the keys is important. There are many approaches. I'll lay one of mine out now, since I've realized I've added nothing to discussions lately. I was more worried about giving too much away without knowing what I had.
    This is joy. This is key. This is key 1-20-5. ATE. In the golden eagle eye = 1-20-05

    As Doc and Lobster have explored... A MORSE X
    imo key 20 contains the following sequence. - . .- . - .--.- - -...- .-

    there is another one.. .- - . -. -.. -...- -- . -.

    This is one of about 70 ideas i have floating around, but some of them seem to always hold true. This one is confusing as the latest clue.

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    I suspect we will ultimately find that the answer for Chapter 1 is a lot simpler, a lot more straightforward, and a lot less exciting than anything posited by the "3 key" gymnastics that has occurred in this forum.

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    Curious to know if you found any of these using anangrams since one of the clues states that NO ANAGRAMS were used...

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    Gizmo, it's not that difficult--and that sounds funny coming from me.

    The eagle eye clue is indeed imparting two more clues, one is now straightforward, and the other requires a small degree of thought.

    The first keys are 1, 20, 5, 14.

    In other words, the first key is A TEN.

    The first key is an 'X', which is what I've been trying to relay for a while now with the business about three keys.

    The second clue stems from the fact that the clue is the 'G'old 'E'agle 'E'ye, or GEE. Namely, '7'.

    Gizmo, this is a GOLDENEYE clue.

    JAMES BOND 007.

    You've got an 'X' that's first: J. You have something that's second: B. You have something related to THIRD: 007.

    You'll need to be introduced to two of his friends, and you'll do that be realizing that 'J'ames 'B'ond is X2. For this particular clue, it will mean XX or '20': namely 'T'.

    I don't know how well you're versed in the Freemason alphabet, but the letter 'T' is a combination of two different freemason characters.

    'M' and 'Q'. Meet Mr. Bond's associates.

    This 'M' key is another iteration of being a 'first key', but it doesn't come into play until you're ready to assemble your map.

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    Ha!

    I just realized the other part of this:

    The first key is A TEN.

    The first key is A=X.

    Cute.

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    I'll add that by the time you are done the equivalencies, you will end up with tenX2 people as well as you have suggested above in similar fashion. This is your omega key. I believe you may be missing the other pieces though. At least 20 people... have the first half right. This has nothing to do with people being correct, its the people found in the puzzle.
    For equivalencies, I have
    EYE=I
    MY=MI
    JOY=KEY.
    to=two
    ubefore = befoure its a play on words.
    We are meant to do JOB. My Job is to(two).
    01-20-02-10
    A T B J
    ATBJ caesar shift(1) and what do you get. This is one of the equivalencies you will need to use. I have several other equivalencies in the toolbox that I have found. The ghosts of coopers past is another one. The facebook picture contains many which nobody has figured out yet. When you figure out those properly the puzzle comes together with using planets. son=sun is one of them.
    Doc and Lobster.. I do believe the puzzle is not as straightforward as you may think. The ciphers you need to use, and when you need to use them is part of the whole sequence. This is part of the trouble with the latest facebook clue.
    I believe the correct interpretation is a variation of the following:
    ATEN.. this smells to me like
    ATEN SION - has to do with the free mason part of the puzzle.

    And last but not least, I don't think the next keys you have suggested are correct or in order for the latest facebook clue. It is misleading and preparing us for a new facebook picture clue. I believe a π (pi) clue is coming soon.

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    I'm practically convinced my instructions are correct, and tie to Doc's instructions. The puzzle looks to me like a 3D crossword puzzle. Perhaps similar to the 3D sudoku puzzle somehow. Its kind of like a rubix cube. When you move something, everything twists, but then the rules of the game are broken. Its meant to make you think you have something right, but then realize your symmetry is wrong, and eventually get frustrated. You move this key, and it fixes something, but then it breaks something else... I've incorporated many of the clues and ciphers suggested along the way. Back to my original thinking, and where it all began with the first two keys (we only had two keys for a long time)...
    01-20
    A T

    The facebook picture clue I've found has many multiple meanings. The beginning = the end. The beginning can also equal the end upside down and/or backwards. We have three other stories mentioned (national treasure book of secrets, the davinci code, pirates of the caribean). We have three keys. There is a second story hidden in the chapter. I think there is a third story hidden in the map. Three maps, three keys, three stories, three movies yada yada yada and so on and so fourth.
    Lets start with the beginning = the end upside down and backwards.
    01-20-02-10. The sequence is the same backwards as well.
    A T B J
    Atbash this and you get this:
    ATBJ ZGYQ
    Now caesar this using the keys caesar(1) caesar(20) and you get
    BUCK TASK
    Also, note the "BJ" part in terms of .. my JoB is two (backwards)

    I'm fairly sure there is an omega, pi, and mu set of keys. The facebook picture only applies to the omega keys. Part of the problem is figuring out how many keys is in each of the groups.

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    And if i go one more step, with three keys, I get TAP ... as in tap code. Ties in the free mason and and tap code instructions. Im working from the end, so the mason looks to me like a maSON clue. The good news for me is I think I know the password for the toughest cipher (Q7). The bad news, is I have to read more to find the first set of instructions.
    As for the second set of instructions. What doesn't belong, look for the jeep. With atbash and caesar ciphers in play, we have a 26 letter alphabet to work with. There is 26 pages in the first chapter. There is an odd line at the top of page 20 which helps. Also, notice Cheerokee.. Choerokee.. Cherokee. There is literally clues littered all over the place.

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    I've had no time lately to work on this until late last night. I found more of the instructions for what I've been working on, but now I have to interpret them?!

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    Put 'em out here, and let's see what we can do, Gizmo.

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