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    Vincentournier is offline Junior Twelever +1 Bronze Vincentournier is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by guttom2 View Post
    This clue makes perfect sense to me, and confirms that the solution I sent this week is correct
    Good luck, as i said we are numbered that already submitted at least 30 combinations using whatever you submitted this week !

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    I don't think it was ever the intention of the hunt designer that someone would solve a Chapter map key sequence with zero additional clues outside of the book.

    Aside from a lucky 1 in 20 factorial guess, I think it only became practically possible for someone to solve Chapter 1 after the first few clues were provided for it via email a couple of years ago. And at that point it still would have taken an amazingly lucky set of educated guesses to get it since there was so little to go on (especially for the latter portion of the key sequence) and no real feedback as to whether you were on the right track. At this point there is much more to go on, but one must still make some intuitive leaps regarding the meaning of some clues in hopes of a solution.

    Since it was mentioned in a Facebook comment that the clues are being released in a predetermined order, all of this is by design, most likely to (1) ensure that the entire hunt would not be solved in rapid succession, (2) allow for those joining the hunt at a later date to catch up more easily, and (3) to generate some "buzz" on the internet about the hunt via sponsor site, Facebook "likes", etc.

    For the above reasons, I expect the solutions for each Chapter map to use essentially different methods, since several clues have explicitly mentioned this is "for Chapter 1" and since a similar solving method for all chapters would likely lead to 12 Eagles being solved in rapid succession, which wouldn't be good for the promotion of the hunt or the satisfaction of the hunters.

    Obviously there are other ways to structure a hunt in order to attain the above goals. I also understand how some hunters might prefer that this hunt were organized differently (part of me feels the same way). But after coming to the above conclusions, I am able to enjoy the hunt on its own terms, make some progress, and not give up.

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    I think the real issue is that you've worked very hard on the puzzle and you are frustrated that you still haven't come up with the solution.

    I think you will only be happy if Ron releases a clue that allows you to solve it.

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    We ARE frustrated because the instructions in the book led us to believe what the book said- that the clues for the order of the keys were in the book, on the sponsor's website & and the website itself. Was Facebook mentioned in the instructions? (I don't have the book here) Instead, two years go by, then the weekly clues begin on facebook. Are there clues to the order of the keys in the book? If so, why has no one claimed to find them? Other than the eagle eye, which wasn't a clue, but a "gimme" are there other clues on the website? How do the sponsor clues play in, other than hints at the trivia questions? We have no desire for a clue to 'give" us the answer. What fun is that??? We want to solve it, but solve it in the matter which Ron Shore stated it would be done in the rules, plain & simple. We hope that someone is clever & smart enough to wade through these convoluted & crazy clues and solve Chapter One and all the rest, good luck & Godspeed to all! We are just disappointed in the process up to this point.
    "We may not be first, but at least we are not last!" Meaner Simikkles RULE!

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    I agree with you.two years ago I finished all 240 questions and gave up because I had no idea where to start with the sequences.I think it would be unfair if it was designed to not be solvable til 2 years later when clues start coming out.
    It's still not known if the hunt was designed this way or if we haven't found all the clues that point to the solution yet.

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    If the hunt was designed to not be solvable til 2 years later everyone should be upset.

    If that was the case the book should have been clear about that IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by guttom2 View Post
    I think the real issue is that you've worked very hard on the puzzle and you are frustrated that you still haven't come up with the solution.

    I think you will only be happy if Ron releases a clue that allows you to solve it.
    NO !

    I will be happy to finally see the solution ... because as I said we are a lot stuck exactly at the same point ... and Ron is not helping us at all.

    Just helping people like you ... to join us and submit (i make a bet) exactly whatever has been already submitted dozen of time.

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    Well there is no way to know if we are are the same page. I think everyone is stuck on the rotate clue.

    But I have to say your comments about "helping people like you" and "joining the most advanced" are pretty patronizing.

    I like you have worked very hard on this.

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    Vincent, I'm not sure if it's a language issue or not but you do come across as being very negative and a bit pompous.

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    I confirm what i said ...
    People ... that suddenly submit something that make sense according to a clue that is just a repetition of some other clues ... are for sure in the same mistakes we did.
    Regarding the most advanced, of course it make sense, because as we said Ron is just repeating same clues again and again ... so anyone who just understood today or few days ago are just joining that ones that got it since months.

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