1. I guess the reason I can't seem to get anywhere on this puzzle, is that I don't understand the meaning of the clues. I took "the mist" mentioned in this clue to mean the 7'th and 8'th words of Chapter 1.

2. And why wouldn't that be right?

Originally Posted by Mister_Gizmo
I guess the reason I can't seem to get anywhere on this puzzle, is that I don't understand the meaning of the clues. I took "the mist" mentioned in this clue to mean the 7'th and 8'th words of Chapter 1.

3. The problem with that theory Doc is that I can pull something out of another place that says "I can be T"

Now we have two things that equal T..... There are literally hundreds of these in there.....

4. I think Doc has looked at and worked with his theories for so long that he can't see the problems that they have.

5. My problem at this point is simply too much data.

In chapter 1 alone the Lobsters have found scores of interesting related texts, locations, linked and parallel chapters, themes, tokens, symbols, etc. When I see "mist", I can locate at least 6 different (reasonable probability) potentially linked mists in associated texts, chapters, archives, and poems. When I see "beginning" I have a score of different locations that could be being referenced. Toss in Chapter 13.5 and you have a huge set of potential ciphers (particularly when you're reversing and offsetting them) that you can overlay on ANY of these linked or associated resources.

I suspect that we dived in so deeply that we simply have run into a bunch of Gold Eagle stuff, and unfortunately there's no clear way to differentiate between silver eagle and gold eagle clues/content.

That is, IMO, the biggest problem with this hunt: it would be difficult enough with just one prize and one set of instructions, but what we have here is effectively two completely different and likely largely mutually exclusive hunts overlaid on top of one another. Not only are clues overlaid, but so are all of the associated textual hints, markers, and references. In effect, the more you investigate the more likely you are of getting bogged down in irrelevant data. Add on top of this red herrings.

Now I'm not complaining... it is what it is... but how you're supposed to sort out which of the 25 "interesting aspects" of Chapter 1 are actually relevant to silver eagle as opposed to gold eagle (apart from a couple of obviously-specific-to-chapter-one parts) is beyond me at this point.

Still, we'll keep plugging away, and I suspect we'll find even more layers. Lobsters never give up.

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Originally Posted by Mister_Gizmo
I guess the reason I can't seem to get anywhere on this puzzle, is that I don't understand the meaning of the clues. I took "the mist" mentioned in this clue to mean the 7'th and 8'th words of Chapter 1.
..............and you would be exactly right..........so what's your problem?

7. I don't have a problem Steve. Since I've never understood Doc's three key theory anyway, I think I'll stick with what I can understand.

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Originally Posted by Lobster
Yeah, stop the whining Vincent. There is zero evidence that what you think the first 10 keys are is correct.

In fact, everything that I'm seeing indicates that things are quite a bit more involved than the solution you have been proposing.
Up to you to think so and not to write down where i gave you a sequence what you really think about it.

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Originally Posted by Mister_Gizmo
I don't have a problem Steve. Since I've never understood Doc's three key theory anyway, I think I'll stick with what I can understand.
I should have written..........so go for it! .......instead of "problem".............sorry

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'The mist' is also in the first line. AT 10 AM is before 'the mist'.