1. Why must someone be 100 percent sure of the answer? Why must clues and decodes be so obvious that "everyone" can instantly understand what it's saying?

I think that being spoon fed one key at a time, one specific targetted solution at a time was a special exception for chapter 1. A winner for all sorts of reasons was needed. That task is done. I wouldn't expect nearly as much hand holding anytime soon.

Perhaps this sun interpretation isn't even an intended solution! "Seat" is just as valid a solve as "East". Perhaps it is just one of many. Perhaps there are other decodes. Perhaps this clue has meanings that are more subtle and will only make sense when you have a greater understanding of other parts of the hunt.

I think it's completely okay for there to be clues that most of us look at and go "huh?"

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These clues are pointing you to the same spot.

'Our old friend', 'first = last'

East/Setting Sun

'WE' is the answer you need. That I can understand. What I'm curious about is the emphasis on the Baconian cipher.

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I think clues should be 100&#37; unambiguous.otherwise you could be interpreting the wrong clue and being led down the wrong path.

I think it's certainly possible to anagram the solution.but there are literally thousands of possibilities.i think this clue is doubly encoded and when you find the answer you will be 1oo% sure.

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So if you are not sure consider that potentially it is just because you don't understand it and start to doubt.

5. Just to add to the mix (anagrams)LOL

'Use first twenty hotdogs last ten A'
'Use first ten dash go to last twenty'

But I also think Lobsters answer has a more logical sequence, but we will see.

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Originally Posted by Lobster
Why must someone be 100 percent sure of the answer? Why must clues and decodes be so obvious that "everyone" can instantly understand what it's saying?

I think that being spoon fed one key at a time, one specific targetted solution at a time was a special exception for chapter 1. A winner for all sorts of reasons was needed. That task is done. I wouldn't expect nearly as much hand holding anytime soon.

Perhaps this sun interpretation isn't even an intended solution! "Seat" is just as valid a solve as "East". Perhaps it is just one of many. Perhaps there are other decodes. Perhaps this clue has meanings that are more subtle and will only make sense when you have a greater understanding of other parts of the hunt.

I think it's completely okay for there to be clues that most of us look at and go "huh?"
I agree with Lobster. If the clues were completely unambiguous, if there were no red herrings, all the chapters would be won and this treasure hunt wouldn't be any fun. And the prizes wouldn't be worth as much as they are. This is a million dollar treasure hunt - not a math problem - and I consider it extremely fortuitous that we are getting any additional clues from Ron. Did Mel Fisher have completely unambiguous clues on how to find the Atocha? Or even clues to help decipher clues? No. I know it is just a movie, but what about "the Charlotte" clue in National Treasure. It took how many generations of the Gates family to figure out that Charlotte was a ship and not a person? And there certainly weren't any additional clues there. Treasure hunters have to go down every possible option until they find, through luck or hard work, the right one. We were spoiled in the last 3 months with Chapter 1. As Lobster said, I wouldn't expect that to continue. I am shocked, but incredibly thankful, that we are still getting clues every Tuesday and Friday. Maybe instead of complaining about the clues we should start working together to figure them out. This chapter is supposed to be about teamwork after all.

Ok, off my soapbox and back into my corner.

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Please don't misinterpret my remarks. I am certainly not complaining, nor am I second guessing anyone's solves for this clue. I am just expressing my distaste for anagrams and their ambiguous nature, that is all. If indeed Lobster's solution is correct, that is outstanding because its farther than I got on my own, so kudos to him and his team. The next question naturally is how do we use this information. While I have seen a couple of things that this "could" relate to, the \$20K question is what is it really trying to say or how do we use this information? I'm stumped and befuddled, but still trying. This is fun!

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I'm confused.i didn't see anyone complaining in this thread, why is everyone so upset?

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I'm my humble opinion, with respect to ambiguity, I think people are talking about two things.the interpretation of clues can most certainly be ambiguous.but the clue itself cannot be ambiguous otherwise your interpretation could be based off something that is incorrect.

If every clue that was released for chapter one was anagramned instead of encrypted(yes I know it's technically encryption), I sincerely doubt we would have had a winner by now.

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I still think that the last clue in not ambiguous at all.