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    Smile My best solution for chapter 1

    this was the solution when i thought i really had it:

    1) write down the 20 first instances of letters from the first sentence :
    at en o cl k i h m r g, s w ju b d U p

    2) encrypt what is "before U" using a "cipher backwards" using a modified atbash(using only athru t). this means to encrypt the letter d. it becomes a q.

    3) encrpt the w and u using a regular at bash. w becomes d, and u befomes f. and voila
    you have your seqeunce:

    a t e n o c l k i h m r g s d j f b q p

    i thought for sure this was the winning solution, but alas it wasnt. i even tried mirror it horizontally (using the A=Omega pic clue which is upside down) so that the d becomes q,
    p becomes b...etc.


    im not sure what the winning solution is but i like mine better lol

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    I was under the impression that the clue "Only use letters from the story" meant skipping the extra poem letters. I don't know that though.

    I used the Atbash theory you mentioned though. Jeep has always had a letter designation for all of their vehicles, and since 2002, the Jeep Cherokee/Jeep Liberty has had the letter designation "KJ." Now take a look at your modified A-T/T-A Atbash, and you'll see that K&J line up over each other. Could this have been what the "Look for the Jeep" clue meant?

    I felt that the "encrypting what is before "U" clue was a trick of wording. I looked at it as encrypting "T." You can encrypt something into "T" or you can encrypt "T" into something else, and it's still encrypting "T."

    This is all probably just a case of me seeing what I wanted to see.

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    Yes. I didn't actually use the U. I just kept it in for illustrating that the "d" was what came before U.

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    Notice that in that Clue the "U" is capitalized. Yes the letter t comes before you but you have to wonder why U is capitalized. That's why I thought you were literally supposed to encrypt what comes before U

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    I'll take a look at the solution when it comes out next week, and if my assumptions were way off base, I may consider following Team Meaner out the door. There are two prizes here in California, though.

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    Guttom,

    Thanks for sharing your ideas. You might have been on top of it. Correct me if I'm wrong with this:

    The alpha key would have come from AT TEN O'CLOCK IN THE.

    Continuing your mechanism, the rest of the letters in the sequence, without altering them as yet would have been derived from the rest of the sentence:

    MORNING THE MIST WAS JUST BEGINNING TO DISSIPATE AND WISPY STRANDS OF IT STILL CLUNG TO THE HIGHEST BRANCHES OF THE GREAT NORTHWESTERN PINES AND FIRS.

    M R S W J U B G D P F

    Without doing anything to it as yet, it already looks kinda good because you have a great relationship of 'first=last'. 'Morning' should have been the last part of the alpha key, and FIRS being the last word makes me suspicious it might be related to FIRST.

    I'll point out that a lower case 'omega' is a 'w'. Such that an omega 'key' might have been a 'Q'.

    I like your idea in general, and I appreciate hearing other people's ideas, right or wrong.

    Doc

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    Damn I didn't know that about a lower case omega being a w.Im going to kick myself if that's where I went wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by guttom2 View Post
    Damn I didn't know that about a lower case omega being a w.Im going to kick myself if that's where I went wrong
    Yes, and flipped over it is am M.... Mountain man as in my sequence? Look at the last of the chapter.

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    Oh god you are right Lauren. How do you account for the "j" then? Is that the last key?

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    Yes, thats exactly right. Theres more to it to it too. It ties in with what Doc found on page seven...

    You had a very good idea though. I think that was an excellent idea.

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