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    You pull a rabbit out of a hat. Pull suggests bottom to top.

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    Good Sunday morning on a crisp, clear sunshining day in the Bayou State of Louisiana!

    This clue is the bomb. It's representative of the types of puzzles and clues to solve a map.

    You need to understand two things going into it:

    1. A lower case omega is the letter 'w', and w=23.
    2. Three keys, 1-2-3, can be combined such that an 'alpha key' = 1 and an 'omega key' = 23. In other words, if 10 = 10, or alpha = omega, the omega key is a combination of keys 2 and 3. It's why the 'q' of Chapter 1's solution was on a different page and paragraph, and why the J and Q were missing from chapter 2.

    The final collection of ten letters is actually a combination of two different keys, keys 2 and 3.

    But, that's a different discussion. The task at hand is this amazing clue and the chapter 3 solution.

    It's broken down into three sections:

    1. Riddle me this and riddle me that
    2. tlboon, eldfis, lemkim
    3. woshall will be the key to pulling this one out of the hat

    These each correspond to a chapter solution, and this is the first step to solve each part:

    1. Who's afraid of the big black bat
    2. Bolton, Fields, milk me
    3. 'shallow hallows' will be the key to pulling this one out of the hat

    1. This is a quote from the movie 'Batman Forever'. The 'big black bat' = 2 2 2, or 2 to the third power. '2 3'

    The second half of this quote was 'missing' and '23'.

    The chapter 1 solution was simply read in sequence.

    2. The references are to MICHAEL Bolton, SALLY Fields, and BEATNUTS Milk Me.

    MALE FEMALE 2

    Sound familiar?

    Just as in the chapter solution, you take the first letters: M S B, which is the abbreviation of the 'first' Michael S. Bolton.

    The last letters N S E.

    Missing 'w'.

    Michael S. Bolton and Sally Fields worked together in 'Homeward Bound 2: Lost in San Francisco'. A second chapater; Lost in San Francisco. VERY apt description.

    3. 'Shallow hallows' is broken down. 'Shallow Hal' and 'lows'.

    'Shallow Hal' is the title of a movie portrayed by 'Jack Black'. Lows anagrams into three different words: LOWS, OWLS, and SLOW.

    JACK BLACK LOWS

    J = 10 or X
    B = 2
    LOWS = 3 words.

    X 2 3. This is your 'missing 23' for this part of the clue.

    There's a LOT more to this, as you are probably intuitively realizing. I just wanted to show you an overview of how his clues operate to get things started.

    Doc

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    So Doc, I will go back to a previous thread you had posted about this chapter. Does your solution now still hold true to your previous posting that you "knew" you had the correct solution?

    On a separate note, has anyone recieved any rejections that were submitted over the holiday break?

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    Squirrelio,

    Yes.

    I received my rejection notice last week, and was honestly taken aback.

    I reviewed my solutions, and was a bit shamefaced.

    Typical physician--I have poor penmanship. For chapter 4, my 'D' looked like an 'O' when I wrote it down. I had the two letters reversed in position.

    For chapter 3, I had overlooked an application of first=last:

    The first instruction for chapter 3: C = X.

    This is the final instruction as well.

    It meant that the C goes last.

    For chapter 3, the solution is reversed when placed into the map.

    We'll know in the next two weeks.

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    First of all as a fellow physician, I resent that poor penmanship comment. . .Well maybe there is a little truth to it (we had to write quickly in med school to get all the notes written down). Second of all, I am certainly not trying to negative or difficult, but Sally Field spells her name without a final "s". Third, I am hoping that the keys that I just entered are the winning combination because I need the $20,000 to pay for all the paper and ink I have used in the last few months. (lol)
    Good luck to everyone, and Enjoy The Hunt.

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    I should have stated MY penmanship is poor. LOL.

    I checked and you're correct. The second anagram should be S FIELD.

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    That was a little confusing....

    The three anagrams you're supposed to find are BOLTON, FIELDS, and MILK ME.

    Their 'solutions' are MICHAEL, S. FIELD, and BEATNUTS.

    I hope that clarifies.

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    Doc, one of potential holes I see in this new theory is with the assumption that the anagrams are for Bolton and Field. Why would we have one anagram that just gives the last name (Bolton) and the second that would be different and include the first initial (S Field) and then a very odd reference to BEATNUT (most people don't even have a clue on what that is) when we could just as easily related the "milk me" to the movie Something about Mary: "I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?" To me, it seems illogical that the methods of anagramming would be different for each "word" and then to have such obscure references that could draw hundreds or thousands of relations to or apart from each other without any sort of link between them.

    Again, please don't take this as a criticism, just an observation and my 2 cents worth...I would love to see this chapter won relatively soon because with the 3 chapters being done, the correlation between the "mechanisms" to solve each chapter seem like they would be easier to draw. So, basically I am just trying to facilitate more thought and discussion.

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    You're exactly correct, Squirrelio.

    I wasn't ready to jump into this portion until you had some time to think about this first part--each one of these correlates to a chapter solution for chapters 1, 2, and 3.

    The author is trying to teach us a LOT about the Golden Eagle.

    The anagrams have a second solution: BOLT ON, SELF ID, and MILK ME. It means FASTEN, ME, and COW. What you do with these three words is identical to the mechanism of solution for chapter 4--it's how I recognized it when I saw it.

    In other words, these particular anagrams were chosen because they're used more than once for different reasons.

    Let me give you something to consider in all of this.

    Let's assume that the concept of the two soduku grids at the end of each chapter were the key to solving a map of 1 - 20.

    One might see that nine numbers could come from the first soduku grid and that nine numbers could come from the second soduku grid--leaving two numbers missing.

    In other words, the entire solution of 1-20 would require THREE KEYS:

    1. The FIRST soduku would have a set.
    2. The LAST soduku would have a set.
    3. The MISSING TWO.

    'To find your way on the map keep in mind that
    the first
    .
    .
    is equal to the last.'

    A dove key. An omega key. A scratched out key.

    Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    You're exactly correct, Squirrelio. The author is trying to teach us a LOT about the Golden Eagle.
    I'm not sure that Ron is sitting around hatching such complicated puzzles, Doc. My vote would be for something a little less complicated.

    I still need to investigate this one in detail, though. Perhaps if we merge this clue with other information and other clues it will make more sense.

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