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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Jeff View Post
    Or there is always the possibility of Secantroam=Second Rome=second half of the sequence is caesar ciphered
    This one plays along with the last clue about the "Final Four" being found with a caesar shift.
    If this is the case, then does that mean the first half of the sequence is found using an atbash cipher as in last friday's clue where "The final four" was done in a caesar cipher and the second part of the clue "can still be found" as an atbash?
    Yet another question. If it is a caesar shift on the second part, what is the shift? His clues have all been different amounts of shift so far.
    I concluded that the Secantroam clue is indeterminate, at least in any predictive manner. There are simply too many interpretations, even when you note that the S is capitalized. While more than one of those interpretations could be correct at the same time (a regular feature of Ron clues), it appears to be impossible to me to tell which with any degree of confidence.

    No big deal, there are no shortage of clues...

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    p.s. I agree that "Always a Capital" is the best interpretation of this clue. The issue is, "capital" itself has a lot of interpretations. I'm also a little wary of the interpretation "Always a capital letter" because from what I've found (or at least think I found), that sentiment doesn't appear to be entirely accurate. Who knows though, I'm basing that on internal clues -- stuff that is so riddled with what I perceive as red herrings (and some things that look like red herrings but appear to be indeterminate due to various scoping/logical uncertainties) it's not funny. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

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    Ive been trying to simplify the clues in a way I can apply them to either the first or last half of the sequence. Obviously this may not be right but heres what Im thinking so far:
    -Both sequences begin/end with a capital letter
    -One of the sequences will be ciphered (probably Caesar)
    -We must start with the 2nd sequence, then go to p.53 to find 1st sequence (makes end the beginning & not starting at beginning)
    -one of the sequences goes right to left (probably 2nd) other left to right (1st?) so they converge in middle
    - 7th key=F

    So what does this all mean, and how does it go together? Well this is the million dollar question...er silver eagle question! I am having difficulty trying to pinpoint exactly where to begin these sequences. Perhaps I need to go back to the story to look for indicator words.

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    There's a biblical verse that's tying the answers of the first three chapters together:

    Revelations 22:13

    It's a good place to begin.

    Alpha and omega: Paragraphs 1 and 23 for Chapter 1
    First and last: first and last letters of the lines for chapter 2
    Beginning and the end: The chapter 3 solution will revolve around 'Charlie' and 'sea', or 'C and 'A'.

    Doc

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    I used the Caesar Cipher for the first 3 words & the Substitution Cipher for the last 4 words.

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    I skipped ch2. I didn't have a second book, and didn't like that approach, so I skipped it. My ch3 is finished now, and I have a limited collection of answers. Is there a Sacramento in the chapter 2 or 3 solution questions? I just want to know honestly, because I'll have to go back and figure out what i answered. Long ago, I got a "correct" and key, and forgot what the question was I won't mind doing the questions again though, they were fun. Hopefully lead to clarity

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    Hi Gizmo, No, there is no question answer that is Sacramento in Ch 1, 2 or 3

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    As a late comer to this hunt I am not quite in a position to offer new findings. I am still trying to understand the map solves of Chapters 1 and 2 which apart from the winners seem to be understood by a number of hunters. Reaading the chapter 2 clues and Docs comments I feel that I understand the process although I have not worked it through as I do not have the other book.

    However for chapter 1 there are no clues on Facebook. Were there clues for chapter 1 ? Does anyone have a copy of Chapter 1 clues they que send me ?

    About all I can offer for chapter 3 is that after transcribing the text with correct margins and font (Californian FB of course !!) I noticed that the line breaks have been forced on 34 occasions. There are also a number of uses of hyphens were they are not really needed and some paragraphs that end with hanging words. The most ugly is probably:-

    David clampzed a hand down on Charlie’s shoulder. “In a few da-
    sys.”

    Here a couple of spaces must be added after the hyphen to force the "sys."" onto the next line.

    As it would appear that Chapter 1 and 2 use word and/or letter positions I believe these typsetting changes indicate a similar method for chapter 3. Anyone? Doc?

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    I agree - some of the use hyphenation is a bit odd!

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    There are extra hyphens in the story because there exists hidden messages in morse code.

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