# Thread: CHAPTER 4 - discussion and clues

1. I just want someone to win it at this point so I can stop spending so much time accomplishing so little. Please, someone. Win this.

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The two clues that our author believes are two of the most important:

1. Chapter 4's solution is a bit different than the rest. There are only 5 times that 'this' happens. Choose the husband and wife and the solution is yours.
2. "The Evens" truly have it.

Combine that information with another clue: Anything prior to p. 72 will not help you in finding this silver eagle.

As has been noted before, there are 5 dividing lines throughout the chapter. What's on p. 72? The second line.

If the 'evens' have it, I wonder if lines '2' and '4' are the starting places....? I like the tie-in with an 'X': An 'x' made of two lines and X being the 24th letter of the alphabet.

The author thinks we have all the information needed to solve the puzzle. Interesting conundrum.

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Anyone wonders why clue on may 31st put "Every one" in quotes? Does it has anything to do with the only "Every one" on page 78? And this one is Atbash. Backwards in its own way?

4. Originally Posted by votp
Anyone wonders why clue on may 31st put "Every one" in quotes? Does it has anything to do with the only "Every one" on page 78? And this one is Atbash. Backwards in its own way?
This is why you cannot believe that every clue in quotes is to be anagrammed like "the evens" or "this."

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Originally Posted by Rx Jeff
This is why you cannot believe that every clue in quotes is to be anagrammed like "the evens" or "this."
Nope, wrong thinking. i think Every third One represents well. The seven is a mystery still. I'll bet you have to be twice as lucky to figure out the BS though

6. Well I'm pretty sure I've narrowed potential starting locations down. Still don't see how the cipher is supposed to work though. There appear to be only a limited number of ways to use 2s in an "easy" fashion, and I've pretty much brute forced them all at this point.

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Originally Posted by Lobster
Well I'm pretty sure I've narrowed potential starting locations down. Still don't see how the cipher is supposed to work though. There appear to be only a limited number of ways to use 2s in an "easy" fashion, and I've pretty much brute forced them all at this point.
Yep, I'm pretty much done same thing as you did, still found nothing.
I'm still not quite clear about the clue on Dec. 6th, the rhombicuboctahedron. Anyone wants to shred some lights on this clue?
I think it might come up this Friday.

8. Well I am beginning to believe is is either not a two skip or not atbash or both.
The rhombicube has 18 squares and 8 triangles. We need the squares plus two that are on their own. We use 18 and dont use 8. Another analogy to using all the letters but 6 go home. Easier than you think.

9. Originally Posted by votp
Yep, I'm pretty much done same thing as you did, still found nothing.
I'm still not quite clear about the clue on Dec. 6th, the rhombicuboctahedron. Anyone wants to shred some lights on this clue?
I think it might come up this Friday.
A rhombicuboctahedron is just a 26 sided figure... the more interesting part of the clue is that you have to 'use every face' and that 'some faces are identical' and of course "remember not to double up'. I can think of a cipher that uses 26 letters, treats a couple of the letters the same and takes 2 letter pairs to solve... heck it's even used to solve the last question of the chapter.

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Originally Posted by kazoo
A rhombicuboctahedron is just a 26 sided figure... the more interesting part of the clue is that you have to 'use every face' and that 'some faces are identical' and of course "remember not to double up'. I can think of a cipher that uses 26 letters, treats a couple of the letters the same and takes 2 letter pairs to solve... heck it's even used to solve the last question of the chapter.
Great thought! I'll give it a try. Thanks