# Thread: CHAPTER 4 - discussion and clues

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Originally Posted by Rx Jeff
I find it rather funny that 4 people have the first half correct and the new clues is for one of the keys in the first half. Trying to extend this chapter or trying to let everyone catch up before an omega clue is released? Still think two is important? One, two...three, four....etc. i thought the number of the chapter had significance in how it is solved? Or are we "pairing up?"
So many choices. Skip pattern. Cipher to use. Starting point. Navajo.
I believe this clue is worded incorrectly.i believe the lay it straight numbers are the possibilities for the empty stomach positions in the sequence.it doesn't make sense the other way since we already know the 3 choices for key 8.

2. Originally Posted by guttom2
I believe this clue is worded incorrectly.i believe the lay it straight numbers are the possibilities for the empty stomach positions in the sequence.it doesn't make sense the other way since we already know the 3 choices for key 8.
guttom2, from the bottom of my heart I hope you or anybody else solves this soon.

3. New Clue:
Looking for the answer to a difficult question,
I stumbled upon a great suggestion.
Trying to find the keeper of the gate,
I really didn’t want to be late.
So, starting the sequence “twice as lucky”,

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Find an "I" in the sequence "twice as lucky"? skip 2? Every third ones do?
Who is "the keeper of the gate"? Saint Peter?
which one? Skip 2 or the Judge's cipher?

5. Guess we want to play catch-up.

6. I need to catch up

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Solved!! (Yet again lol)

Reworked my solution and I found a very good confirmation that I got it right. Typing this as a ladybug lands on me.twice as lucky??

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We have a winner!!

9. It is finally over! Congrats to Annika from the UK for finally ending this mess!
Now for my commentary.
What a joke. I do not even have to see the solution to know that it was illogical and just a chase for letters within a story line. The story is simply the map. You cannot win without spoon-fed Facebook clues. Totally controlled outcome by the author. I commend Ron Shore for doing this for charity, making a fantastic book with great stories and history as well as a great website. But the implementation of it is another story. I am now donating my books to the local high school library. I no longer have any use for them as I am moving on to what I hope is a more exciting and mind-stimulating hunt, Endgame:The Calling. Good luck to everyone that continues on to chapter five.

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Well here was my best answer that I wasn't able to enter because I'm still at work:

EACOB HRTSM. LIGNJ FQK- PD leftover for two possibilities