# Thread: CHAPTER 4 - discussion and clues

1. I would have never gotten omega based on the "skewed clues." Alpha fit like Lobster said, but omega, not so much.
Two went on a hunt of their own must have meant two questions at the end of the chapter. Backwards in its own way? We all atbashed the crap out of this one thanks to that clue.
Congrats to Annika and shame on Ron and his team for allowing this chapter to go on for 19 months with clues that were wrong or deceiving. I doubt we get a quick winner for chapter 5 for those that choose to continue. I strongly encourage folks to consider if it will be worth the effort. We did our part for the cause and purchased the book.
Endgame:The Calling starts October 7th. I am pretty sure the answer to that one will be logical and not have you chasing letters within the text of a story or questions or appendix, etc. The top prize is \$500,000 US.
The meltdown value of a silver eagle is around \$8,000.

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I'm away from my book for the weekend--I take my office staff on a big trip every year, and we're actually in Galveston awaiting to board the Carnival Triumph in the AM.

Could you explain what question 14 and 8 looked like in the book and how the correct solution was derived from it? I'm inferring that there were 3 missing keys this time?

Many thanks,

Doc

3. Originally Posted by Doc
Could you explain what question 14 and 8 looked like in the book and how the correct solution was derived from it?

Q14 was a number cipher written like 23-8-1-20 2-12-21-5... that read "What blue semi precious..." and Turquoise was the answer which was one of the last few clues. Q8 was Navajo code asking what the Latin Arizona state motto is. The trick to the solution as explained was to use a straight number substitution for A=1 to T=20 and start over at U=1, V=2, W=3... so Q14 starts with 23=W=3. For Q8, the Navajo text was used as is and the 3 leftover letters were PQR. There was a clue for the 18th number as either a 6, 11 or 17 so that left P and R as choices for 19 and 20. Her complete explanation is posted on the facebook page.

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Kazoo, thank you.

I'm starting to get excited here. I wish to heavens I had brought my book--boarding the cruise ship in the next hour and won't be returning until Monday--I apologize for the questions.

If memory serves, one of the soduku puzzles involved an 'X'--the Union Jack or something.

Looking at this solution, I'll bet it was question 17. Is that correct?

5. Originally Posted by Doc
If memory serves, one of the soduku puzzles involved an 'X'--the Union Jack or something.
Looking at this solution, I'll bet it was question 17. Is that correct?

Spot on memory Doc! Q17 is the Union Jack Sudoku.

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Originally Posted by Doc
Kazoo, thank you.

I'm starting to get excited here. I wish to heavens I had brought my book--boarding the cruise ship in the next hour and won't be returning until Monday--I apologize for the questions.

If memory serves, one of the soduku puzzles involved an 'X'--the Union Jack or something.

Looking at this solution, I'll bet it was question 17. Is that correct?
Doc, question 17 was the Sudoku question about the flag of the United Kingdom, and the answer in the 17th position was 11.

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Other interesting things that Annika did not mention is that the alpha sequence started with 3 and the omega started with 14. So maybe the solution was as easy as pie(PI). Ron also used q15 and q8 which totals 23(omega?).

Once again the false clues sure threw me off. I must have to good of an imagination, I can make the fit perfectly. Shame on Ron for wasting so much of our time.

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I understand perfectly how the 2 sequences were found in the 2 questions.

However, I've read Chapter 4 over and over again and still can't see how we were supposed to work out that the letters were to be found in the questions.

So - is it actually possible to solve a chapter without any Facebook clues?

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Once again the false clues sure threw me off. I must have to good of an imagination, I can make the fit perfectly. Shame on Ron for wasting so much of our time.
If my theory about the structure of the hunt is correct, a lot of those clues that just don't seem to fit are there for a reason and make sense in their own way. I think in time they will make more sense as you start to uncover how the solutions are hidden in the book. I think the hunt team is trying to do some pretty interesting and ambitious things with those facebook clues.

That said, I do hope that the hunt team dials down the intentional misdirection, which reached pretty silly levels in this past chapter.
I'd rather have no additional clues at all than numerous clues that sabotage the real solution.

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Sorry, I had a hard time understanding the accents on the video looks like q14 and q8 were used which totals 22.