# Thread: Chapter 5: Clues and Discussion

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It's pretty quiet in here. I guess nobody is working on this any more.

Chapter 5 clue: If you are looking for help in solving this one the “Filthy 13” may be able to help you.

2. After the 'Ron-bashing' that occurred here a while ago, I think people are hesitant to participate here and just continue to work in silence.

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Gizmo,

I'm here and accounted for. This clue is just.....crazy good. It won't put numbers into the map, but it's an outstanding exercise in the puzzle logic and helps point towards the true path.

I'm busily working it through as we speak.

Bear in mind each clue has three answers, and as it turns out, it's directly related to some stuff I've been posting lately in the 'Reverse Engineering' thread. Kinda blowing my feeble mind--wasn't expecting a Facebook clue to corroborate what I've been doing lately.

Do you see the first answer?

'The Filthy 13' - 1 = THE DIRTY DOZEN.

It's a FILM.

In other words, when we FIRST SUBTRACT ONE, the ANSWER is RIGHT.

Consider it an anagram of FIRST ANSWER MISSING RIGHT I.

Knowing this, can you spot the second riddle that leads to the name of another film?

'The Filthy 13' = F I L T H Y M = THY FILM.

Keep on truckin',

Doc

4. 'The Filthy 13' = F I L T H Y M = THY FILM = documentary about Colonel Sanders?

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Lobster,

THY FILM should be THE FILM.

This happens when Y = E. As it turns out, Y is also = 3 since it's in the third position and the shape of the 'Y' is in THIRDS.

Y = E
Y = 3

Y = 3E.

EEE is a savings BOND. THE FILM we're looking for is a BOND movie.

Putting it together,

Y=3E
'YEEE' - E = EYE

If you realize that 'E' is EAST, or RIGHT (as in west = left and east = right), then you have another of the anagrams:

When we FIRST SUBTRACT 'RIGHT', the ANSWER is 'EYE'.

The name of the second film is GOLDENEYE.

Do you see where this is headed?

We need the name of the third film, and discovering it requires the use of the 'correct' version of the phrase I posted on the other thread that we've been anagramming.

Much excitement here....

Doc

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Well, I am 99.9% sure what this clue is for. It's a little bit tricky to figure out though. To my dismay, it is a repeat of an earlier clue that I may not have interpreted correctly (actually, several clues).

If you really want to figure it out, just type "filthy 13" into google and hit the fist link that pops up. It really is that simple.

7. Originally Posted by Doc
Lobster,

When we FIRST SUBTRACT 'RIGHT', the ANSWER is 'EYE'.

The name of the second film is GOLDENEYE.

Do you see where this is headed?
Ooooh no idea... to another set of anagram-astic algebra perhaps?

Let' s see how far I can get:

Anagram GOLDENEYE and you get "LEN DE GOEY".

He was a former Dutch footballer who played as a midfielder. He played in Holland with the team (and Im not making this up) "GO AHEAD EAGLES".

So clearly we need to GO AHEAD.

Which is... well... it's a townland overlooking the town and lakes of Killarney, in Ireland. Aghadoe takes its name from ACHA DA EO which is Irish for "The place of the two yew trees".

Well YEW is botanically "Taxus Baccata" (a conifer). TAXUS = TEXAS. So we know that we're on the right track.

Well yew trees have cones, so if we're looking for two yew trees, we need "2 cones". Or a double cone.

A double cone is mathematically the union of a set of straight lines that pass through a common apex point and go through a base.

Algebraically, z^2 / c^2 = x^2 + y^2 / a^2

So we are looking for 2 cones, that are placed apex to apex.

Or, "Apexes".

APE - EXES.

Out treasure is hidden near 2 monkeys who just broke up after a tumultuous relationship.

Am I close?

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Where did you come up with that?!! You made me spit my coffee out.

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Lobster,

GOLDENEYE.

This FIRST ANSWER is MISSING RIGHT EYE.

It's taking you to the GOLDEN EAGLE EYE.

What's the name of our third film?

Look up its title, and you will discover that particular film had a very interesting peculiarity that directly relates to what we've been doing.

10. Originally Posted by Doc
Lobster,

GOLDENEYE.

This FIRST ANSWER is MISSING RIGHT EYE.

It's taking you to the GOLDEN EAGLE EYE.

What's the name of our third film?

Look up its title, and you will discover that particular film had a very interesting peculiarity that directly relates to what we've been doing.

Dr No?

From Russia with Love?

Goldfinger?

Thunderball?

You Only Live Twice?

On Her Majesty's Secret Service?

Diamonds are Forever?

Live and Let Die?

The Man with the Golden Gun?

The Spy Who Loved Me?

Moonraker?

Octopussy?

A View to Kill?

The Living Daylights?

Licence to Kill?

Tomorrow Never Dies?

The World is Not Enough?

Die Another Day?

Casino Royale?

Quantum of Solace?

Skyfall?

If I've learned one thing from your line of thinking, it's that there are way, way, way too many James Bond movies!