# Thread: Chapter 5: Clues and Discussion

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Ok, part of my confusion is...does this clue provide more than one hint? I believe I used it correctly once already. What I mean is, do we use it again for the missing ones at the end?

If a pound of gold weighs less than a pound of feathers, and you pour more on...does that mean more of the same, or something that weights more? See the confusions? It's in the interpretation of "more".

2. That feather/gold thing makes no sense to me either, gizmo. Feathers are heavier. But, so what?

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Lobster and Gizmo, I'm not sure about that one as well. Let's try talking it out.

I see 12 = 16, and I recognize that question 12 = 6.

The trick to the question seems to be the 'Pose the Question again'.

Thoughts?

4. Doc, my problem with the clue is that I don't think it says what it's supposed to say.

It says that "if you think they weigh the same you may need to pose the question again"

The problem is that they DON'T weigh the same, as the common-riddle of this type explains. Therefore, I do NOT think they weigh the same. Therefore this clue is implying that you DON'T need to pose the question again. But, all evidence that I can see is that you DO need to pose the question again. In a matter of speaking.

So, I think this clue sort of trips itself up in an unintended double negative.

I think.

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Opposite of gold = SILVER and opposite of feathers = TARS.

I see SILVER STAR, and quick google yields that it's the third highest medal in the armed forces.

That's something I may be able to work with to get somewhere.

6. That's weird. I would think the opposite of gold, Au, might be lead, Pb, not silver, Ag.

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No, the first part is straight forward. A pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of gold. 16>12 P>L. You have to do less to start...
The second part is not straightforward. Do you keep doing what you were doing and pour more gold on, or do you pour feathers on since they weigh more? That is the dilemma.

8. Oh. Thanks for putting it straight Gizmo. Apologies for my troll. I'm still 100% unfamiliar with this hunt. I've just taken an interest in the comments. Good, intriguing, and funny at times.

Maybe feathers and gold sorta play on the Goose that Laid the the Golden Egg.

9. Riffing on my thought here,

Maybe an egg is part of the riddle, and Troy is the other part. Think Trojan Horse = hollow. Hollow egg = Pysanky

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Originally Posted by erexere
Riffing on my thought here,

Maybe an egg is part of the riddle, and Troy is the other part. Think Trojan Horse = hollow. Hollow egg = Pysanky
No, I don't think so. You have to use the book, as the riddles are to just help you along. The riddles alone won't help unless put into context of chapter 5 that we are working on.

With that in mind, I think I figured it out. I found a solution that converges and you end up with the same thing no matter which way I do it. I think I have the whole thing right now.