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Thread: Chapter 5: Clues and Discussion

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    Rejections out and new clue.
    Guess you do have to read and follow the story to get the solution. You won't be able to get his one with clues alone.

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    No rejections for me yet..I must have cracked it! Just kidding....why no rejections for this long?

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    I stopped submitting at least a month and a half ago, thinking that someone was right on top of it. Came back today and .... nothing yet. Kinda shocked.

    What does everyone think of the order of the next to the last FB clue? The beginning of the sentence came last in the cypher text. Makes me think about the very last sentence in the Chapter where Jonathan asks Champ to teach him that song and then go back to the beginning of the Chapter where Champ is singing it. I've worked some in the past on a code within Champ's child-like interpretation of the words -- even the actual words of that song (which are derived from yet a different song or poem I think). Didn't see anything there, tho.

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    I appreciate the bonus FB clue, but does anyone know what it means?

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    It means it won't be solved until the fall or later.

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    it is an indication of the beginning of the text to use in determining the solution.
    "Do or do not; there is no try." --- Yoda

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    Bonus clue?

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    I think Dawnplayer thought last week's clue was the last one before break.

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    Ahhhh. I think I've generally got the right idea.

    Working out the starting point with any confidence seems to be nearly impossible though. There are at least 10 locations that have multiple clues pointing to as potential starting points.

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    The actual last FB clue -- about Dichotomy -- is, at my count, the 6th clue that "directly" references the whole "Zero" notion. There are about 3 or 4 other ones too that "indirectly" reference it:

    1. Empty space, nothing, a vacuum, void, Nada, Null
    2. zero sum game
    3. backward -forward algorithm
    4. +1-1=0
    5. Yin Yang
    6. Dichotomy (opposites coming together to mutually cancel out or whatever your interpretation is)

    I feel like I missed one?

    Anyway, my point is there are two sides to this solution (not just the normal 2 sides of 10 keys each). Sides that are equal in nature somehow, and equally cancel each other out. Someone must have already gotten half of this -- haven't we been given notice that someone has at least half of it solved? They need to use that and find the other half using the half they know. (ok rambling, sorry)

    This brings me to the two "X"'s in the chapter picture. One is one the chest and one is on the Journal. I think one represents the Past and one represents the Present. These are two "tenses" that are repeatedly brought up in the book and in the Chapter Summary. I have "always" thought from the beginning of this chapter that the Alpha and Omega reside in those two places. (Partly also because "Tense" is ... Ten'se)

    What really brings this home is the very flagrant FB clue about the answer being divided into two halves. We've known for four Chapters that the solutions are in two halves -- but isn't this the first time it's actually been really "spelled out"? What a time to say it -- on Chapter 5 when all chapters have been like that already? They are equal in some way and cancel each other out. Yin Yang. Dichotomy.

    Rant is over.

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