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    To me this clue implies a conversion. However, without any more information, it simply opens up Pandora's box to all conversions in the universe. Therefore, we were actually smarter before the clue came out. The previous clue is similar in nature. Open as many options as possible early in the puzzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo2337 View Post
    To me this clue implies a conversion. However, without any more information, it simply opens up Pandora's box to all conversions in the universe. Therefore, we were actually smarter before the clue came out. The previous clue is similar in nature. Open as many options as possible early in the puzzle.
    I was wondering if the real question was: What weighs more: a pound of feathers off a silver eagle or a pound of feathers off a gold-plated bronze eagle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawnplayer8 View Post
    I was wondering if the real question was: What weighs more: a pound of feathers off a silver eagle or a pound of feathers off a gold-plated bronze eagle?
    "Tin bronze was superior to arsenic bronze in that the alloying process could be more easily controlled, and the resulting alloy was stronger and easier to cast."

    An even better question is, does the eagle contain Arsenic? lol.. just kidding.

    All questions regarding the legitimacy of the prize of this chapter have been answered. In fact, two clues have been given on how to receive a refund.
    "If the first 6 boxes were envelopes what is the sequence created by where the return address would normally be located?"

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    Hmmm. This is a neat little clue... One of the interpretations doesn't really make sense because it's unclear if it is telling us that something that certainly looks like a herring is not a herring, or if it's attempting to indicate that the core of the herring leads to an additional clue as to the real location of something.... But in any case this clue certainly got me humming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo2337 View Post
    To me this clue implies a conversion. However, without any more information, it simply opens up Pandora's box to all conversions in the universe. Therefore, we were actually smarter before the clue came out. The previous clue is similar in nature. Open as many options as possible early in the puzzle.
    Or a more interesting question: is it good for something to be heavy or not? Because, there are very good reasons to believe that weight (like an unfortunate number of other metaphorical identifiers) is both good and bad.

    Sort of like "some curses are real". Which is, I've got to say, the most unhelpful hint in the history of hints, because it suggests that some curses are not real. Which means you never know whether a curse is real or not. So it might as well have never said anything at all on the topic.

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    If chapter 4 taught us anything it should be not to try to read too much into these clues... I mean how many times were we hit over the head with the number 14 which turned out to be the question number where alpha starts.

    So, might it just be telling us we need to do a caesar shift like in chapter 3 but only this time its a shift of 4 (16=12)? If it's that's it then 5=1 and this would tie into the first clue about the chapter number being where it's at... we are to find the numbers/letters 5 thru 25 (E thru Y) and shift -4.

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    ...sorry I meant 5 thru 24 or E thru X... Doc should really like this because it ends with an X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoo View Post
    ...sorry I meant 5 thru 24 or E thru X... Doc should really like this because it ends with an X.
    EXactly....I mean EXcellent... err.. doh! (Homer Simpson)

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    Has anyone worked out yet why the last 3 keys of C4 were "17,18,16" ?? Q/R/P ?

    It just makes no sense... in all previous instances, the leftovers were ordered either alphabetically or by a switch to basic A=1,B=2 cipher for the leftovers, and the letters extracted in order.

    In C4's leftovers, QRP is neither alphabetical nor follows the order of letters. And Q11 in C4 states "what two others letters appear on the disks... in alphabetical order", which one would suppose might at least somewhat hint at the method of leftovers. Nope. Not that either. Neither 2 letters, nor alphabetical order.

    So it just seems completely random to me. Thrown in a hat and randomly drawn. Makes solving any of these other chapters using anything other than brute force on the "leftovers" pretty much impossible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobster View Post
    Has anyone worked out yet why the last 3 keys of C4 were "17,18,16" ?? Q/R/P ?

    It just makes no sense... in all previous instances, the leftovers were ordered either alphabetically or by a switch to basic A=1,B=2 cipher for the leftovers, and the letters extracted in order.

    In C4's leftovers, QRP is neither alphabetical nor follows the order of letters. And Q11 in C4 states "what two others letters appear on the disks... in alphabetical order", which one would suppose might at least somewhat hint at the method of leftovers. Nope. Not that either. Neither 2 letters, nor alphabetical order.

    So it just seems completely random to me. Thrown in a hat and randomly drawn. Makes solving any of these other chapters using anything other than brute force on the "leftovers" pretty much impossible...
    The only way I see it working is Q14 or Q6. Q14, going backwards from the answer back into the question. Q6, going backwards on the question to find two that went on their own hunt, leaving only one option missing? Why backwards though? This one is backwards in its own way? I'd go with Q6 with the two "1"'s in the question, meaning 11=K and the last letter from Q8.

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