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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Jeff View Post
    I am really surprised that there has been no communication as of yet on chapter 6.
    Dunno.

    I was sure I had C8 solved last week. Seemed to fit a bunch of things. But, nope.

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    Ok, back on topic. I've been thinking about how to find omega key. I went back and looked at chapter 1 again, and it became obvious...we all overlooked it.

    C1 Optic Cross: What doesn't belong? Look for the Jeep.
    What doesn't belong is two encrypted questions in C1 that are both the same question and answer. C1Q7 and C1Q4 are both the same. "The answer is partially spelled out and easy enough to snare" (Washington).
    From page 7:
    The only confirmed evidence that's been found on the ground after the fact was a placard that had blown off the aft stairwell - it was found in 78' a little north of here - and a little less than six thousand bucks of cash, which and eight-year old boy found on the banks of the Columbia River right where it empties into the Pacific, near Vancouver Washington.
    The little north of here points to the top of the paragraph. The omega keys are found on pages 78'. Aft meaning the rear or end of the sequence (omega).


    Now, does anyone have any ideas about how to obtain "the first number of omega" sequence? In chapter 1, is was Q6=F, or the space needle. Any other ideas for the other chapters?

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    Good folks,

    I haven't worked on this one in a while--I've been working on 'The Thrill of the Chase' by Forrest Fenn--but I had an insight to share here as well as the other topic:

    Have faith. This hunt has a very logical, elegant solution waiting for us to find.

    TTOTC had some striking similarities to WGTH as I started working through it, and now I understand why:

    Both these hunts were written by the same author, and they're two parts of a trilogy.

    You can spot the similarities as early as the art work of the three keys on chapter 9.

    All you're given to work with for the Forrest Fenn poem is that it contains NINE CLUES.

    I'm not planning on picking this back up until I've finished with TTOTC, but get your thinking hats on.

    The Facebook clues may have gotten an answer, but they're most definitely not the solution.

    Doc

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    I don't understand why people are trying to reverse engineer a solution - it's just not possible.

    Having been close to winning Chapter 1 I'm certain that there's absolutely nothing in the book that will allow you to find a solution.

    The only way to solve a chapter is from the Facebook clues.

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    Looking over chapter 5 again, I mentioned previously that if you are looking for a tap, then look on the other side (chapters 4 and 6 to find the tap questions in Q3, Q12). I had a real problem trying to explain why C5Q7 was used in the facebook clues so many times, but I think I figured it out. It just goes back to the tap grid itself.

    Code:
     12345
    1ABCDE
    2FGHIJ
    3LMNOP
    4QRSTU
    5VWXYZ
    If you spell TAP, the A and T are perfect squares and can be read both forwards and backwards (through the back side of the page) as the same. It is because they are the perfect square tap code digits. The P, however, transforms into X. The X was the clue for the end (omega).

    Looking at the grid again, we have the questions needed in R1C3, and R3C1 or, your filthy 13. Also, the 13th letter in the grid becomes the first key for omega (N), and also happens to be a perfect square number in the tap code grid.
    Now, we see the lucky 7, and why it was hinted so many times in the facebook clues. It wasn't meant to throw us off, it was meant to help.
    Code:
     12345
    1ABCDE
    2FGHIJ
    3LMNOP
    4QRSTU
    5VWXYZ
    Or, we can just show the dichotomy of the two questions like this:
    . ... / ... .
    The beginning = the end.

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    Or, we can just show the dichotomy of the two questions like this:
    . ... / ... .
    The beginning = the end.

    Closer to the end of the chapter you will have to decipher this one to make it work
    The last two tap codes of the chapter are
    . ... / . ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by macphisto View Post
    I don't understand why people are trying to reverse engineer a solution - it's just not possible.
    Having been close to winning Chapter 1 I'm certain that there's absolutely nothing in the book that will allow you to find a solution.
    The only way to solve a chapter is from the Facebook clues.
    I agree, for Chapters 1-3, but I don't think this is the case any more. Chapters 4 and 5 were much different. I can see the logic of how it could have been done in those last two chapters, and explained those subtle clues previously. Chapter 6 and chapter 7 appear similar. I guess I'm down to three weeks to prove it (that it can be solved without facebook clues). I've been submitting the same alpha since July, just can't figure out the other half.

    The FAQ for the hunt says exactly that.
    21. Q. Where are the clues to get the correct order for the keys? ^

    A. Additional clues are located on the sponsorsí web sites, in the book and in the tools section of the web site (available only after you log in with the registration code from the book). These clues will help you put the keys in the correct order in the treasure map.

    22. Q. I have got the answers to all of the questions in the chapter but I just can't figure out the sequence, what do I do? ^

    A. The sequences are a bit more difficult to figure out - it will take time and some patience. More clues will come out as the contest continues. It is frustrating but that is what makes finding the solution to 'the treasure' so gratifying.

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    I got a double rejection this week!!!!

    Map Submissions - Sept 28-Oct 4, 2015
    We have received your map submission(s) for the following date(s) and chapter(s) and have found it (them) to be incorrect.
    Chapter 6 on October 5, 2015

    (Wrong week) - I also got the same rejection in the correct week.

    This engine seems to have been very very flaky as of late. Last time it was the wrong date, missing date, and an extra one not submitted on.

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