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Thread: Chapter 6 - Clues and Discussion

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    Any discussion on the clues:
    Xxx6xxx or
    Finding the differences amongst people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Jeff View Post
    Any discussion on the clues:
    Xxx6xxx or
    Finding the differences amongst people
    The "special 25" is particularly difficult to work out, because the clues keep pointing to different things. First it appeared to be Today's the day, then it's "the order they have always been" which seems to be something completely different, then it was steps down +5, now it's "special" (and special doesn't seem to fit anything related to this chapter at least). Frustrating when clues actually make a solution further away as opposed to closer.

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    New early clue looks very similar to the one from chapter 4.
    Any thoughts?
    The clue in chapter 4 solved the 5 encrypted questions only to find out that the sequences were in two of those five questions.
    Hmmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Jeff View Post
    New early clue looks very similar to the one from chapter 4.
    Any thoughts?
    The clue in chapter 4 solved the 5 encrypted questions only to find out that the sequences were in two of those five questions.
    Hmmmm....
    I actually joked the other day that the questions and answers text was the one place that none of the clues pointed at as being where the keys were hidden, and therefore the only place NOT to look.

    Looks like that has now been covered, so it's safe to say that the keys could now be absolutely anywhere!

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    I think I have narrowed down the location to the keys, but am furtively working on how to extract them. No easy feat due to the many different directions the clue sends one.
    "Do or do not; there is no try." --- Yoda

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    What directions? Like 16 can help you start, E=5 and my favorite, a person who either being disciplined and made to cut down trees or a person who has studied a discipline of how to cut down trees.
    Paul Bunyan or supposedly Mr T.
    E=5 could just be the playfair grid, BUT this is a Fair Play as told by Joy.
    And don't forget to go in the direction of a hurricane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm660 View Post
    I think I have narrowed down the location to the keys, but am furtively working on how to extract them. No easy feat due to the many different directions the clue sends one.
    If the cipher is something reasonable (i.e. something we've seen in the book), I think I've narrowed it down to a handful of possibilities at this point and hope to have it by the new year.

    If the cipher is something completely new involving reordering or rotating or screwing around with or performing complicated addition/subtraction algorithms with random and impossibly haphazard playfair grids (like some of these clues seem to be suggesting), then I'm nowhere close, and likely never will be close.

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    Once you find the place to start, you have a choice of how to boil down the letters to make the keys needed. I have always thought that the Joy clues were the best, so that is how I am choosing to reduce the letters to make the keys for the sequences.

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    Still can't make v+0=w fit ANYTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobster View Post
    Still can't make v+0=w fit ANYTHING.
    would a Playfair grid making V=W help at all? (leaving I,J,U,W intact)

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