# Thread: Chapter 6 - Clues and Discussion

1. Chapter 4 gave us the number 22 as a clue and the solution was questions 14 and 8.
Chapter 5 gave us the sum of year 1888 or 25 and the sum of the 4 most important numbers needed to solve. It was a shift of plus5 and negative 5 and questions 12 and 3.
Do we have any clues in chapter 6 to help us find it?
Five to the power of two or 25?
You will feel like you ran a marathon or 26?

2. Clue from chapter 5:
the loneliest number, if there is a triplet left over take it out, one of the perfect square numbers remaining will help you on your way.
This was the sudoku clue on page 103. Many got this one wrong. A perfect square in sudoku can be a number that occupies its own box.
If you knew the answer and you had followed Ron’s clues in previous chapters, then you knew “will help you on your way” meant the start of the omega sequence.
Many have seen the five dashes on the ship of the Atocha picture at the start of the chapter.
E=5
Five dashes in morse code is zero, but with this clue, the five dashes are just plain letter E.
The last word in the chapter text is “morE.”
So what starts the omega sequence questors?

3. 10+5=5
21-6=5
What is the southernmost state in the united states.
15=5
The 15th letter is E
21-6=5
Letter 21 is T
Letter 6 is S
20 minus 19 equals one
Letter 5 is letter i which is roman numeral one
It might be a bit of a stretch, but it does fit.

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Hi all, I'm actually off for 2 weeks so I'll be a little quieter on the site. We are encouraged by the discussions, very good stuff! If I can add before I leave: for us waxing eloquent was taken literally being speaking poetically and pensively... Which we think reinforces the use of Mel's mantra "Today's the day".

The Gr______ clue is still unknown, but another option is that the spaces in the clue look a lot like the spaces that you have to fill in when inputting answers to chapter questions. All a series of underscores. Perhaps pointing us to the questions again.

And lastly, we are fairly confident the the Z is the missing letter based on these 2 clues: Zantippe is not, and Xantippe is fair (paraphrasing).

I'll chime in when I can, good hunting!

5. Zantippe was the misspelling used by Poe to make the poem The Acrostic work.
The clue saying that Zantippe is too hot so the answer is not is just telling us the solution is NOT in the poem. Everyone should be on board that the solution to chapter 6 is in the questions and/or answers.

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Originally Posted by Rx Jeff
So what starts the omega sequence questors?
How about starting the omega sequence with an "I"?

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Originally Posted by Glace
The Gr______ clue is still unknown, but another option is that the spaces in the clue look a lot like the spaces that you have to fill in when inputting answers to chapter questions. All a series of underscores. Perhaps pointing us to the questions again.
N-Q14. Xgth qrai vo hqr ngithm dnca bmeqn wiqcmdh tcumaqligln (wgaldan ph cba tmigoomlq)U?
O-Q15. What was Elisabeth's toast while stranded on the island with Jack?
Q-Q17. What was the first destination of Will and Jack after they stole the Interceptor?

I'm leaning towards what has already been mentioned by Jeff and Dawnplayer. If the letter is the question number then we get NO Q, meaning Q is missing from the grid.

If true, interesting that a book clue was there all along.

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I need some help with tools, and hope someone has an idea.

Suppose you have a "keyed Caesar", and you know both the cipher text and the plain text. Given that there are 26 shifts, and it could be encrypt or decrypt, what the easiest way to see all 52 key possibilities? Does anyone have a tool for that?

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Anyone wish to discuss the theme of this chapter? Our last given clue was: Good things, clue should know, to in the theme of this not count.
I am not sure what Ron was getting at but "to" or possibly two might be the theme. Pairs or 25(5x5 or 5 squared) or even PI also seem like a good choice.

10. Not to count the theme
Today is the day that counts
The first “person” counts. (Now first person can be either I or Me as in MEl fisher?)
The title of the chapter is The Atocha.
But what is “the theme?” Dawnplayer raises a good question. TDY, TODAY both used in clues to point again at Todays the day. So is that the theme? The waxing eloquent?
Or is it the five to the power of two or 25 or fairplay/playfair.