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    I do not think a playfair cipher is actually used on the text. It may just be referring to use the ciphered text of Q14 in seeking the keys. From my experience in the past chapters, Ron's clues tend to get people heading off into complicated paths for the solution when the solution is generally simple. Read the clues again carefully, and look at the wording. Think outside the box.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm660 View Post
    I do not think a playfair cipher is actually used on the text. It may just be referring to use the ciphered text of Q14 in seeking the keys. From my experience in the past chapters, Ron's clues tend to get people heading off into complicated paths for the solution when the solution is generally simple. Read the clues again carefully, and look at the wording. Think outside the box.

    Good luck.
    I guess it is back to the drawing board for me. Clearly what I have tried isn't working. But I am afraid that I was thinking to far outside the box. Where is Doc when you need him.

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    Well it is into March now and nothing from Shore, a man of his word.
    If you are still working on this, you are wasting your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Jeff View Post
    Well it is into March now and nothing from Shore, a man of his word.
    If you are still working on this, you are wasting your time.
    Dar.......

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    Maybe he took THE LAST silver eagle to a convention of recovering kleptomaniacs and flashed it around a bit and is just too ashamed to admit it.

    Or, maybe the THE LAST silver eagle has joined the gold eagle and the other silver eagle in the fiery furnace.

    Just sayin'...see all my previous comments for what I think of Ron's "word". Hell see my previous comments for what his brother thinks of his "word".

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    There is still too much negativism. It doesn't help. I put a lot of effort during the last month into trying to solve this chapter. I started fresh - discarded any previous ideas that led down the rabbit holes to nowhere. I started to re-analyze the clues in a new light and discovered what I believe will lead me to the solution. Its like an "AHA" moment. Ron is right when he said "Don't make this so difficult." There are more than enough clues to solve this. You just need to READ the clues carefully. Let me know if anyone needs a push in the right direction.
    "Do or do not; there is no try." --- Yoda

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    Ron has not commented on his facebook site for months. He no longer cares and will just wait it out until everyone finally stops submitting solutions. I bet he has multiple solutions for chapter 6 as well.
    I spent countless hours on chapter 6 too.!

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    Let me tell you how they catch monkeys in certain parts of South India to shed some light on attachment.

    In time not long gone, monkeys would routinely destroy crops in the fields. The farmers, practicing compassion, wouldn’t just shoot the monkeys and kill them. They would catch them, and once caught, the monkeys were taken to the jungle where they were set free. But catching them wasn’t an easy task by any stretch of imagination. These primates were agile, notorious and aggressive. And if you think rocket science is difficult then try catching a monkey (or do its mental equivalent — meditation). The farmers set up traps but realized that often the monkeys would lose their toes, fingers or sometimes a complete limb in those traps. The poor animal would cry out in pain and agony and be handicapped for the rest of its life.

    The farmers had to find some way of catching the monkeys without inflicting injury on them. Clearly, it wasn’t possible to drop everything and keep an eye out for the monkeys round the clock.

    “There’s a simple way,” a wise farmer said. “I’ve been observing these monkeys and their behavior. We can catch them without hurting them.”

    To show what he meant, he cut a small hole in a coconut, just big enough so the monkey could slide its hand in. He then tied the coconut to a tree and put a banana inside.

    In practically no time a monkey came and smelling banana, put his hand inside the coconut. But, when he tried to pull out his hand, since the fist was clenched holding a banana, it would not come out of the small hole.

    The wise farmer began climbing up the tree. The monkey was its own hostage. It could let go of the banana and take its hand out, but no, it held onto it tightly. It made a lot of noise but the man went to him calmly and grabbed hold of the monkey.

    They hung hundreds of coconuts thereafter and soon all the monkeys were caught.

    The moral of the story: attachment is monkey-business.

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    Has anyone had any conversations with Ron about when he is supposedly going to make changes?

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    Hah, I didn't realize people still visited here. I haven't looked at a thing in many, many months.

    To me, the greatest deception is not in a lack of prizes, clues, strange tales of stolen eagles, etc.

    No, the greatest deception to me is the apparent lie of the hunt itself.

    I don't care how difficult a treasure hunt is. I don't care if there are no new facebook clues ever released.

    What I do care about is that when a book states (and I quote, page xxii) "CONTAINED IN THE BOOK ... ARE CLUES WHICH WILL LEAD TO THE CORRECT ORDER THE KEYS NEED TO BE PLACED IN", there had better be clues in the book.

    Well, there aren't. There just aren't.

    I have asked the author point blank numerous times if there are clues in the book for the chapter solutions, and every single time he has said "I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT".

    But the introduction SAYS there are!! Why the heck can't he verify that what the book states in the introduction is true? The only rational conclusion is that he doesn't want to admit that no, there are no clues. Because if the answer was yes, he would say "yes, there are clues for all the chapter solutions in the book. I clearly can't tell you what they are, but there are lots of clues there."

    Also, if there were clues in the book, the author would have - a long time ago - provided some clue about how to use / identify / see the clues in the book. I know that if I had created an elaborate, beautifully constructed puzzle that it would bug the crap out of me if no one ever even identified any of my clues as being clues. I'd point at the text and say, "hey guys, there are a lot of clues. The actions of the main character will help you on your way." But no, nothing at all like that. No facebook clues have ever even hinted at there being clues in the book, or offering assistance on how one might solve them.

    I am angry. Not at the hunt being difficult (I don't care how difficult it is), not at the eagles being... disappeared... , but because the book appears to lie in its introduction about the most basic nature of the solutions.

    As far as I am concerned, I am not convinced there is a treasure hunt here, or ever has been.

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