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    Default I believe that Image 3 may represent Halifax, NS

    Hi All
    I randomly stumbled across the Secret just a few days ago and quickly made a few observations that I think might be of use (or not...time will tell). I have read nearly all of the previous post on both Q4T and Tweleve so I feel that I am somewhat up to speed.

    Firstly, my apologies for the length of this post but I thought I might as well get all of my observations down at once.

    Alright, here goes:
    I live in Halifax, NS so my attention was obviously drawn to the idea that one (maybe more) of the casques were/are buried in Canada. A quick perusal of the images leads me to believe that Image #3 is for the Canadian site, based on the fact that it is the only image in which the picture extends “outside of its borders” (ie outside the U.S.). Reading older posts on Q4T, I found that others have made this same observation and I believe it to be logical.

    From the work of others, I was under the impression that Montreal and Toronto were the expected sites of the Canadian casque, however upon beginning my study of Image #3 I quickly came to a startling conclusion: I believe that P3 is actually depicting my own city of Halifax!

    Perusing older posts have led me to the mention of Point Pleasant Park as a potential site in Halifax, which I believe to be plausible

    In PPP there are several very old towers and memorials, notably this one:


    I was immediately reminded of this site by P3 (incidentally, this is the Sailors Memorial which lists the names of men lost in WW1, WW2 and the Korean War). Also, to my eye, the pose of the figure in P3 resembles a ships rigging, which should be a self-explanatory link to Nova Scotia. Alsio, the reflection in the abdomen section of the armor resembles a ship's anchor and there is indeed a very large ship's anchor monument very close to the Sailors Memorial pictured above.

    At first, that was all I had and passed it off as mere coincidence, until I thought of another site on the other side of the Northwest Arm from PPP, The Dingle Tower:


    Then, I really got to thinking. The Dingle Tower was built by Sir Sanford Fleming, builder of the Intercolonial Railway and the "inventor" of the standard time zones which are currently in use throughout the world and stands in Sir Sanford Fleming Park. Once I made that connection, I began to see things in P3 which lead me to believe that I may be onto something.

    For example, the bells hanging from the figure could be a reference to "dingle". The armor is clearly English or Scottish, and "Sir" (ie knight) Fleming was indeed a Scot who moved to Canada. As you can see in the photo, two bronze lions sit at the base of the tower and I find that the figure in P3's helmet resembles the face of a bronze lion. Furthermore, the mace attached to the figure's right wrist could be taken as a reference to Mason (Fleming was a famous Freemason), as well as an ornate ceremonial mace being the symbol of the Nova Scotia House of Assembly as a symbol of the shift of power between the (then) king of England and the first colony in the New World (Nova Scotia='New Scotland').

    Also, the figure contains the cartographic symbol for 'bridge' in two places on its armor and Halifax is famous for having two huge bridges spanning the harbour. The other symbol on the armour is both the symbol for 'earth' (as in he united the Earth with standardized time) and is also the Templar cross (it is believed that the Templars fled to Nova Scotia in the late 14th century after being driven out of Scotland, well before Columbus 'discovered' America, and set up a battery in the province under the leadership of Sir Henry Sinclair--there is also the theory that the Templars led to modern Freemasonry). The cross on the figure's cheek is one which is used to represent the four corners of the Earth (also a reference to the uniting of the globe). The four-leaf clover on the figure's armor could also tie into Fleming as he is said to have come up with the idea for standard time while on a trip in Ireland.

    If this picture does in fact represent Nova Scotia, then I believe that the 'pea' in the spoon in the lower right in in fact a blueberry (the provincial berry). I believe the object hanging from the other end of the spoon to be a sand dollar (sand=Sanford, and a reference to the sea).
    I have also noted these things in the background:

    I believe that the "key" hanging from each arm means to take one number from each side for each co-ordinate. Doing this reveals the numbers "63" and "45", the exact latitude and longitude of Halifax! I also believe that the image in the red square is an outline of the province of Nova Scotia, minus Cape Beton Island. I was thinking that the image of the cross on the wall in the lower left could be a part of a map of Point Pleasant Park, if the cross is taken to be the Sailors Memorial:

    Following the outline of the marks on the wall to the point where the small "shovel" appears (directly under the left key) would lead to Martello Tower, in the middle of the park (more on the signifigance of this later).
    The other red square at the base of the pedestal contains letters which I cannot make out. Maybe someone else has some insight into this?

    Okay, so where does that leave us? Which verse would tie into this? I know it goes against the generally accepted linkings, but I believe that verse 10 is the most likely candidate (though others could fit as well):

    In the shadow
    Of the grey giant (Dingle Tower)
    Find the arm that (The Northwest Arm)
    Extends over the slender path (Arm Drive in PPP--just across the water)
    In summer
    You'll often hear a whirring sound (the park is infested with pine beetles which prduce a sound like chainsaws in the summer and have for decades)
    Cars abound (Rail cars--Fleming built the first Intercolonial Railway and there is a huge railyard nearby)
    Although the sign
    Nearby
    Speaks of Indies native (the sign by Martello tower tells how it was based on a design used in the West Indies and is the first of its kind in north America)
    The natives still speak
    Of him of Hard word in 3 Vols. ("Hard Words" = the names of those killed in 3 wars -- '3 volumes' engraved in metal on the plaque)
    Take twice as many east steps as the hour (I believe the hour to be 13, not 1 as in the clock in P3 since Fleming developed the 24 hour clock, hence 26 paces)
    Or more
    From the middle of one branch
    Of the v (the v in the path? Not sure...)
    Look down
    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic man's soil (Any suggestions??)
    Or gaze north
    Toward the isle of B. (Baffin island is directly north from Halifax, or could refer to the Battery which is north of this section of the park).

    So, why Halifax? It is a major port (as many of the sites are) and is world famous as a site for real buried treasures. It was used for centuries as a hiding place for pirates from the Caribean and would be the most logical place in Canada to hide a buried treasure. Of course, I could be wrong (and probably am), but there seems to be a fair number of reasonable linakges here...

    In any case, I apologize again for the lengthy post and I look forward to insights from fellow members.

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    Excellent first post! I wish I was more up to speed on this hunt, and I had something more intelligent to say. But here goes...

    Are you actually suggesting we have to find the dingle berries in this illustration?

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    Nice! I find this well thought out and quite interesting and refreshing. I have been working many Secret angles for quite sometime, it is often hard to take fresh perspective once you read how others feel. Everything about the Secret started with a fresh, new theory...even the finds. Best of Luck, thanks for sharing and keep us posted.

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    Hey greyman, it would be wonderful if you found your casque. I too, have a copy of "The Secret", but right now I am wrapped up in "Alchemist Dar", "Whistle Pig", "MenageriE", and some other interesting ways to wa-- umm "invest!" -- my time. (I even "Fandango" a little on the side.)

    If you've found the right spot, and have the courage to dig, good luck to you!
    I originally wanted to do "Where it all went wrong", but 5 days later, this topic nicely dove-tailed . . .

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    Yes, and when the park ranger asks what you are doing with that shovel, tell him you are searching for The Secret dingle berries. He'll like that.

    -Rusty

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    True -- you should always check the park rules first, and if digging is currently prohibited, find the person in charge and ask them if an exception can be made for you under the guidance of park workers.

    I've found that most are willing to work with someone who is up-front and reasonable.
    I originally wanted to do "Where it all went wrong", but 5 days later, this topic nicely dove-tailed . . .

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    Nice... I've been dabbling with the New Orleans image myself. Have you posted on Q4t?
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    By the way Rusty, this one's for you.
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    Thank you, Lafitte! I'm glad someone has a sense of humor.

    -Rusty

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    Actually, if it is/ever was in point pleasant park, chances are that it is now destroyed. A major hurricane levelled the park in 2003 (70% tree cover lost) and any form of digging is currently prohibited due to young saplings growing everywhere.

    Interestingly, a team of archaeologists was brought in during the post-hurricane cleanup since a large number of Native and Colonial artifacts were unearthed by the uprooted trees. I found a document detailing all of the artifacts that the team recovered and one particular entry caught my eye in which they discovered several shards of painted white ceramic which was (I forget the exact wording, but) "much more recent" than most of the other ceramic recovered and was in situ (ie found together with) several pieces of what looked like broken window glass (plexiglass maybe?). They postulated that it was buried within the 20th century, probably by people using the park, and thus was not applicable to their archaeological recovery. Probably nothing but it caught my attention nonetheless...

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