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    The Landlord's Tale is Longfellow's account of Paul Revere's midnight ride. I dont believe the sample estimation of Cleveland and Chicago is enough to rule out the question of whether Preiss had the intent to apply literary clues to a specific purpose. I dont think his craft was "cheap" or applied with no panache of the imagination.

    My observation of most people's efforts is theres too much dependence on the visual examination and not enough delving into the verse and how the literary nuance can be put into directional/orrientational instructions in the right setting. The iron gate of the Somerset and the fence enclosed section of Charlesgate is such a setting.

    I'm all for finding evidence of change or removed historic markers, but only in cases where theres the suggestion that such evidence is to be expected. A box is drawn in the painting, so looking for a box near the 2-circles is worth looking into, but I dont see its needed given the assemblance of enough clues to suggest a dig spot inside the fenced area as I've proposed. At this point I'm prepared to wire someone in Boston up to $2,000 to exercise the means necessary to GPR or dig that spot.
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    Thank you for the link. I would still like a representative, someone wbo understands the objective to oversee the GPR specialist.
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    I guess all you would need to do is convince somebody that your theory is credible.

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    That reminds me of the time I hired a band to play a wedding. I asked the manager of an Irish rock band a year in advance so they had ample time to plan, but he flat out said "we dont do weddings". A year later, they played the gig. I dont know whether it was because I'm just that cool of a guy or if it was that they liked getting paid well.

    Its pointless to convince someone of my theory. You say a reverse dollar sign is a stretch as a symbol for "free". Shrug. You say the 2-circle area is where you think the puzzle leads to the casque. I think its a great idea to look at the surroundings, see the green light tower as it interposes the view of the S-S on the Somerset gate. Theres a nice drawing of the Tax Burden fairy in the book displaying a large bag of money, a large $ symbol with an interposing strap over it. I think its a really good hint/confirmation for how Boston works, not to mention the subject matter of imperial tax burdens as they apply to those historic days.
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    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/6403624442865634/

    Where did I leave those keys? Over by the Norumbega Tower methinks.

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    Turns out Preiss' approach was as simple as can be. "Home" is home plate, 3 balls are bocce balls. All this stretching about reverse dollar signs was a waste of time. You will only know where it is if you live there. If you want to talk about the Tax Fairy and imperial tax burdens, knock yourself out, Preiss was cashing a check and getting a job done. Answer was so simple and we wasted so much time and we weren't even close.

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    With some respect, bnut, I dont mind the arguement against some of my ideas for being non-simple, but I do mind seeing you make a claim that it is simple without a real satisfying explanation. If it is simple, then explain based on some direct verification. The find itself was a construction crew chancing upon it based on an idea to look around home plate. Many real complications may be in play based on a long passage of time, or minor landscape alterations, construction, and a chain of custody problem that goes against verifying any delicate details that might've been lost or passed over.

    The manner in which the "solver" came to focus on that particular home plate is really subject to question and opinion. I'm not saying hes wrong on any specific account. There are many derivations in his report that might be wrong or might be right, but none of them really impress me as being simple. A step is not a standard way to refer to a wharf. JJP really didnt back him up on the Columbus statue, so how is the North End the area of Columbus' direction? Revere's home is not exactly behind those stairs on Copps Hill. The list goes on as a matter worth discussing.

    I dont think its wrong to dig a little deeper into the verses which are very cryptic, lacking overt context clues, and surely demand making a strong decisive take upon a singular point that needs to be correct, otherwise we will end up following the example of many searchers over the years who themselves chanted the mantra of keeping it simple. That's just branding.

    I think feel are home is a versatile line which could represent home plate, but also be an easy way to think of the Landlord's Tale which has the account of Paul Revere's midnight ride. I thought the Somerset building was a great spot because that shared the name of the ship that guarded the mouth of the Charles river when Revere succeeded in rowing a boat across without detection. I was wrong to focus on that building. It's possible the general idea was to focus attention on the area where he rowed his boat and avoided capture. Puopolo field positioned right on the harbor side of North End does that. Theres a sense of a historical game in these puzzles. Basing ideas and explorations on that to support our explanations is warranted. I don't believe anyof these puzzles should ever be categorized as simple.
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    The solution is mostly gotten to by the green tower of lights being the lights that were green back then in Langone Park, the colosseum with steel walls being the skating rink, Face the water Your back to the stairs was just that, feel at home was home plate, the globes were bocce balls. That's it, that's how deep it goes. Preiss threw this stuff together pretty fast. None of the solve locations reveal any deep thinking, at all.

    Theres a sense of a historical game in these puzzles.
    That's just window dressing, a little something to pad out the book

    Basing ideas and explorations on that to support our explanations is warranted.
    I don't think they are, and the solutions to the three found casks don't support any of that. It's a combination of the pictures showing stuff in the area and the text describing things along the way.

    I don't believe anyof these puzzles should ever be categorized as simple.
    I would describe all three of the solved ones as simple, provided you're familiar with the area. I'm not that familiar with Boston, so I would never have identified Langone park or the ice rink. But somebody in the neighborhood did. That's basically how they were all solved - somebody recognized something in their neighborhood in the text or image. And that's it. All the extended analyses of song lyrics and so forth just ended up leading people to a location a good distance away from where it actually was. Associating "feel at home" with the lyrics from an obscure song to make the clues fit is a perfect example. And it turns out the simplest, dumbest answer was right. "Feel at home" just meant "home plate", and she has a home plate on her sleeve. It couldn't be more on the nose.
    "Where L sits" is just a reference to a Lincoln statue, and that's it. It's almost embarrassingly dumb.
    The Cleveland one was solved because somebody searched 'Socrates, Pindar, Apelles" on the internet and the Pylon Monument came up. The Monument looks like the one in the picture, and that's all it was.

    I know you desperately want there to be more to it, but there just isn't.

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    I have never been to Boston and I have to agree about being a local or at least getting there and taking a good deal of time sussing out the clues correctly is a must.

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