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    Hello. I had not seen this site proposed as a solution before. Figured I would put this out there.

    At the place where jewels abound (Redpath museum, McGill University, home of collection of minerals)
    Fifteen rows down to the ground (15 steps in front of the building)
    In the middle of twenty-one
    From end to end (?trees surrounding neighboring park, location of casque)
    Only three stand watch (three bares statue)
    As the sound of friends
    Fills the afternoon hours (college students after class)
    Here is a sovereign people (general reference to Canada)
    Who build palaces to shelter
    Their heads for a night! (Nearby Windsor Hotel)
    Gnomes admire (direct reference to jewel “image to verse”, see page 21 in book)
    Fays delight (three bares statue reference)
    The namesakes meeting (mount stephen club, george stephen house)
    Near this site.

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    That's actually pretty good.
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    Eh, It's pretty vague.


    In the middle of twenty-one
    From end to end (?trees surrounding neighboring park, location of casque)

    So no answer for this one?

    As the sound of friends
    Fills the afternoon hours (college students after class)

    Or pretty much any place there's people

    Here is a sovereign people (general reference to Canada)

    That's a cheat. If it's a "general reference", it could apply to anywhere

    Who build palaces to shelter
    Their heads for a night! (Nearby Windsor Hotel)

    Applies to any place near a hotel

    The namesakes meeting (mount stephen club, george stephen house)

    What is Stephen's namesake? I don't get this one.

    Other than the jewels thing, it's pretty one-size-fits-all. Is the legeater near there?

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    Thank you for the feedback. I do really appreciate the input. I will take these in reverse order:
    -the “namesakes meeting” I believe is the george stephen house. The Mount Stephen Club (the meeting) was named after (namesake) george stephen who was the first propery owner. This has a nice visual confirmer with the legeater statue.
    -The Windsor Hotel was considered the first grand hotel in Canada, and closed in 1981 according to Wikipedia. I agree this clue could indicate anywhere in Montreal.
    -I agree the verses referring to ‘sovereignty’ and “sounds of friends” are a bit vague. Perhaps this was the intent as seen in other examples where there are broader references to the burial site “rhapsodic man” (brooklyn) or “sounds of rumble” (railroad).
    -I put a “?” Regarding the trees surrounding the park because it was hard to tell how many trees are there from google maps. Hoping a forum user who lives in the area could help with that and any other possible visual confirmers.

    The solution I proposed though does have specifics to this site including the number of stairs one would go down in front of the museum (with “jewels”) and the three bares statue. Should also mention that ave de pins almost directly behind the museum has a building with the ‘staircase’ rooftop seen in the painting.

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    Yeah, who knows, the supposed Montreal one is the hardest one. It's never even been nailed down if this verse refers to Montreal or New Orleans. If, after 30 years, we still don't actually know which city it's in - Preiss was too vague.

    This one is the vaguest and has the least visual information. And the exact pinpoint location of the treasure would have been hard 30 years ago.

    Fifteen rows down to the ground

    In the middle of twenty-one

    From end to end

    So you go down the stairs or whatever Preiss means and in the middle of 21 whatever, let's say trees, it's buried. I mean, even if was a year after Preiss buried it, going down the stairs and "in the middle of" any 21 things isn't really that accurate. Am I supposed to measure exactly the distance between the 21 things and take an exact 90 degree angle to the 15 rows exactly? Without surveying tools, good luck digging for that.

    I wouldn't bother with google maps or locals going to the location. Trees change a lot in 30 years. They grow, which will change the measurements, get cut down, die, etc. And even if that is the location - you know how cold it gets in Montreal? There's frost heaves and thaws. Anything buried there 30 years is moved or more likely ground up into pieces. Even if we had Preiss's original photographs, there's no saying we could still find it. The Cleveland one wasn't buried in the ground, and it was busted up. The plexiglass was all shattered. And then things in the ground start degrading it, water, salts. There's no way it will ever be found at this point. It's fun to speculate, but Preiss took the answer to his grave.

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