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    Default Another look at the Eclipse spells...

    I tried something a little different today using my transparacies and the 2 eclipse spells. (The Grow spell and the Open/Close spell).

    I traced the grow spell page onto transparent paper and wanted to eclipse the sun and moon from each page.

    I noticed that the circles around the sun and moon on the top and bottom of page 11(Mold/Grow) are slightly larger than the ones on page 13(Open/Close).

    I then flipped the grow spell page and found that the Grow spell moon circle aligns/eclipses perfectly over the sun circle on the Open spell page. They're the exact same size.

    The two words "eclipse"in the top right corners also "eclipse" each other.

    Now, if you align the two papers this way:moon over the sun on the bottom, 2 top eclipse words directly over each other..THEN, align the sun at the top so that the "rays" fall inside the black circle of the moon.

    With the pages aligned this way, we have 3 solid indicators that fit quite neatly.

    So I tried all sorts of things with this--I took the letters that over-lapped or 'eclipsed' and anagramed which was interesting. Then I decided to take the letters that the corners of the celtic-square-knot symbol pointed to. I've previously referred to these a "whale tales".

    With the moon aligned on the bottom,top and corners lined up, I only looked at the 2 left whale tales because they were close to the letters and unmistakeable.

    The letters they pointed to were :EEDM ESINT--which anagrams to NEED TIMES or NEEDS TIME.

    I then flipped the whole page over-reversed it- and took the letters from the whale tales on the right this time: ANDY LIGHT. This looks like "AND DAYLIGHT" as it stands but could also anagram differently.

    I liked how this worked out for many reasons. If you align the pages like this, there is not much room for error. I used these two spells only because they are read together in the book. Page 11 is upside down in the book, indicating that it should be flipped. I think this could be carried further and this may be a part of some sort of direction.

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    nica i think i did something like that, when i dont remember who
    came up with a www. something. ill check my transparacies, not
    hand drawn, kinkos i think, and see if i get the same thing.
    all those circles have to be for something right

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    cw,

    Awhile back when Aaron posted his "solve" on digi's site-I then followed that and posted (as Soulfly) what I thought was the solve and how he did it. This involved overlaping the spells,lining up the letters: W-Y-R-D with the compass. I came up with something like "yellow ring dot com" or "if I had a yellow ring dot com". All three of the spells worked a little differently and the three answers I got, were spot on and seemed to fit nicely, HOWEVER, nobody seemed to be able to replicate it beacuse if you moved the circles the slightest bit, you would come up with entirely different letters. It was very easy to move the circles.

    Now, overlapping the whole page,lining up the sun/moon on the bottom and the moon/sun on the top leaves a lot less room for error. In fact, everyone should get the exact same letters.

    I only traced the grow spell page and placed that on top of the open spell page, but I have a feeling the open spell page should be indicating something on the grow spell page also. More than likely, all 3 spells should be used at some point.

    With the grow spell over the open spell, (lined up the same way), I did try to take the letters from the grow spell that the smaller celtic 'swooshies' were pointing to or touching. (2 red ones and 2 yellow ones). That yielded some interesting letters also.

    Anyway- this worked out quite solidly and the letters "NEEDS TIME AND DYLIGHT" fit pretty well with the 'theme'. It certainly could be part of some sort of directions.

    As you say, all those circles have to be for something.

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    I can't edit but the letters that I came up with for the overlapped spells should be:NEEDS TIME/ANDYLIGHT. I added an extra "D" in my previous post.

    These letters yield some other interesting anagrams including some containing the word "EMAIL" but I liked the "EEDMESINT" letters anagramed to "NEEDS TIME" together because those come up together then you reverse the page for the other 9 letters. ANDYLIGHT comes up in that order.

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    "NEEDS TIME/ANDYLIGHT", maybe "needs time, day 'n light ? Day and light. Nice to see someone to come up with some interesting ideas. Now my answer to this would be Dec 25, midnight under the lit up Xmas tree. Still waiting for Santa ...

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    Maybe NEEDS TIME/AND Y LIGHT, meaning NEEDS TIME/AND YELLOW LIGHT? Or ANDY could be 'ANDY, Cockney for HANDY, and a hand(y) light can be a flashlight in the USA but a torch or torchlight in Britain. Just trying to muddy the waters! For that matter, almost everything needs time, so I'd think a specific time is meant, whether time of day, year, or something else.
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    Both sides could also be anagramed to "NEED TIMES HALT DYING. (As in the fairies,Ana)

    With the whole "time is it" theme, I agree that some sort of time,date etc. would be needed as part of the answer. Maybe certain times having to do with the initial red herring coords.-Who knows?

    For what it's worth, I don't think that there are many left who are still working on this hunt-myself included. I pick it up once in a while when the mood strikes. Although we should probably be referring to it in the past tense, I do enjoy the heck out of it.

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    nica i couldnt find my transparencies, so i used digis flash from his site
    im a tad off but close enough to see what you got, dont know what
    to do with it.
    something i had never noticed b4, even with all the word and letter counts iv done

    with the sun at top, and the pg# in the bottom right,
    and reading cw, from the word, become
    word count is 3 space 4 space 2 space 3
    or flip moon at top, read ccw start at, you,
    3 space 2 space 4 space 3

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    Right...With the celtic square knot laying on top, the two left-side whale tales point directly to the "eedm" from "heed my" and the "esint" from "fairies in the cave".

    ...and the "andy/light when you reverse it.

    Funny, I never noticed the 3-2-4-3 before either.

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    Can someone please tell me what a whale tail is please pm. Also, what software is that, that you used for the transparency. Thanks

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