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    Default Where are the AMULETS?

    The rules very clearly state in section 1 that the sponsor will select either a jewel or an amulet to give to the finder of a token:

    "The tokens can each be redeemed for a valuable jewel or amulet selected by Sponsor."

    Section 7 identifies the 12 jewels:

    "7. PRIZES: Twelve (12) jewels will be available in the Treasure Hunt:"

    The new Section 14 identifies the new prizes, Pook and Rusful, as JEWELS:

    "14. ADDITIONAL PRIZES: Additional jewels announced are:"

    So where are the amulets???

    An amulet is not a jewel, it is a necklace. Even if you want to say that one or more of the jewels could be worn as a necklace, it still does not address the statement in section 1 that the sponsor will select which one you get. When you find a token, it identifies the creature and hence the jewel, so there is no selection to be made by the sponsor.

    Or is there a selection going on by the sponsor that we do not yet know about? Is there a jewel and an amulet for every creature and the sponsor has only been giving out the jewels so far?

    Things that make you go Hmmmm.......!

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    Default callin reba

    i believe the butterfly was an amulet - reba can u confirm this?

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    Holli,

    It does not matter if you call one or all of the jewels an amulet because there was no choice for the sponsor to make. The token you find tells you what creature you would get. If the butterfly is an amulet, then there was no choice for the sponsor to make. The only way this would qualify as a selection by the sponsor is if you found the spider token and the sponsor selected to give you the butterfly amulet instead of the spider jewel.

    Can you imagine the mess this would create?

    Besides, if you read the rules, specifically section 7, the butterfly is identified as a jewel. This terminology is no accident or mistake. The author spent many hours developing these rules and I highly doubt there is anything in there that is open to interpretation.

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    Default hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by pws111
    When you find a token, it identifies the creature and hence the jewel, so there is no selection to be made by the sponsor.
    ............It does not matter if you call one or all of the jewels an amulet because there was no choice for the sponsor to make.  The token you find tells you what creature you would get.  
    You pretty much satisfied your own curiosities here. The sponsor has already selected or chosen the jewels/amulets that will be awarded as prizes for the hunt. If you read a couple lines further into this legal jargon you will come across the following.

    ...,will, upon verification, receive the jewel or amulet signified by the token.
    As for "amulet", you should speak to some board members that have fond memories of David Blaine's little treasure hunt. The very same word made an appearance in an extremely similar set of rules and that gold ball hidden inside the fake rock certainly wasnt meant to be worn around ones neck. I put my chips on just a little more legal speak referring to the original 12 prizes.

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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I'm not trying to beat this to death, but it still does not make sense.

    If there were jewels and amulets as the prizes, then why does MS call them all jewels? He only talks about jewels at the book signings, never an amulet. There is no mention of an amulet except in section 1 telling us the sponsor can choose to give the token finder either a jewel or an amulet. Since none of the known prizes are called amulets, why put that statement in the rules?

    Definitions:

    Jewel - A costly ornament of precious metal or gems used as personal adornment. A precious stone.

    Amulet - A charm worn around the neck as a talisman against evil or injury.

    Every prize so far fits the definition of a jewel, not an amulet.

    I guess we won't know if there is something else there until MS wants us to. Maybe I'm just being too picky about the wording that was chosen.

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    Could it be as simple as this: any finder could have kept the token itself, which clearly qualifies as an amulet, instead of redeeming it for the jewel. The choice would have been the finder's and not the sponsor's, but perhaps by agreeing with the finder's choice, you could view it as the sponsor making the choice here.
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    I don't know about that...
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    Default Legal

    It is legal jargon. Any "jewel" could be catagorized as an "amulet." I believe it is simply to provide a frame of reference to avoid confusion since this document (the rules) is legal in nature. For example, I might say that "the winner of my contest will recieve a rock or stone." Rather than saying "they will get a pebble." That is due to the nature of people to define things differently and to make sure that no one could claim later that my rock wasn't made of stone or that it wasn't as good as a pebble and sue me over it because of an unclear or undefined description.

    It also makes sense to say that it refers to the golden tokens since the recipient does not have any abligation to redeem them, and by not doing so, they accept the token by default as their prize since legally a prize must be awarded.

    Either way, it is just a legal technicality. We all know what the prizes "are."

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