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    I agree, April. There's overwhelming evidence of a Poe connection, and rereading those stories can make you feel simultaneously giddy and anxious. There are so many potential ways that Stadther could have employed Poe's methods! For about a month now there have been scattered discussions on the possibility that the book uses hidden inks, punctuation ciphers, and what looks like a scarabeus in one of the book's knotholes. I keep hoping that one day I'll open up to the jewel description page and, lo and behold, I'll see that Stadther has very clearly printed out step-by-step directions to the ladybug token (ala "The Purloined Letter").

    But, until that magically happens, I'm thinking that the Poe connection probably means that Stadther will have us solving a puzzle in more or less the same fashion as one of Poe's characters. That is, maybe he'll give us complicated directions which require you to navigate with a compas and binoculars, or maybe there's something clearly left out in the open (on the cover of the book, say), that is plainly essential to solving a puzzle. As with the connections to Doyle, Voynich, Beale, Sanborne, Williams, Carroll and others, Stadther is trying to capture the spirit of his predecessors, but I don't think he'll mimic any of their methods outright.

    All that being said, "To Helen" is certainly an interesting poem, and the best candidate for a Beale-like cipher. Good find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milou
    This thread might (99% probability) no contain anything useful for us. I just wanted to add/update some tidbits to the Poe theory.

    1. "to Helen" : Two (or more?) poems by Poe.
    1831: http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/poe/works/poetry/helen_1.html
    1848: http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/poe/works/poetry/helen_2.html

    2. "Not long ago" (P.14) : Is the first line in some of Poe poems.
    1847 (To Marie Louise): http://www.eapoe.org/works/poems/toml01a.htm

    3. Poe wrote a set of poems called Fairyland...
    http://poetry.poetryx.com/poems/7831/

    4. Poe wrote a poem called "To Mary" (Nary->Mary?)
    http://www.eapoe.org/works/poems/francesa.htm

    Here is a link to a summary of some of his poems and their first lines:
    http://www.eapoe.org/works/canon/poemsacc.htm

    Here is a ling to all POe's work:
    http://eserver.org/books/poe/

    Any thoughts on this?
    Great homework! One of these may be the key to a cipher - similar to the instance in the Companion where they used the Declaration of Independence?
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    the 'to helen' dedication seems to be the only bonafide hint that Poe might be involved in a solution - has anyone found any other evidence? There would have to be something specific pointing to him - the title of a poem is clearly not enough (a google search of 'to helen' doesnt bring up the poem).

    In "Treasure: In Search of the Golden Horse", another cryptographer plays a key role: Mary queen of Scots. But things point towards her (her birthdate is shown, plus i believe her birthplace). These provide enough info to prompt investigation. Anything for Poe?

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    13 letters. Perhaps a clue for the grids (if you follow Perchprisms ideas)?

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    end goal leaper?

    Speaking of leaping, that's a stretch huh?

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    jamesrav
    this has probably been posted before, but if the interpretation on p19 is correct about "locate cipher clue for solution to p 20 (xx), the end of the plumbob could be a reference to Poe's GoldBug where a line was dropped from the eye of a skull to help solve a location. There are 5 heads hidden in the tree on 20, and Rusful is in the tree ostensibly spreading dust. That's the only clue I have.
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