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    Default Part 1 "suit" code ~ unsolved!!!

    These are the suits for Part 1, this is currently not solved.

    D = diamond
    S = spade
    H = heart
    C = club


    DDHCDDCHDCCD
    CDHCDDDHCCDC
    DCDDHCHCDC
    DCCCHDHC
    DDDHCCCDHC
    DCHCDCCHC
    CDDDHDCDCHDDCD
    CDCHDDDHDD
    DCCHDDHDCDD
    CHDDCCHCCC
    DCDHDDCCHD
    CCDCHDHCCDC
    DCDCHCDDCHCDC
    CCCCHDHCDD
    CDHCHC
    DCDDHDCCHDCCC
    CDDHDDDHCDCC
    CHDHDDDCC
    HDCDCH
    HDDDH
    HDCCH
    HCH
    HCDH
    HDCH

    These suits are different from Parts 2 and 3 as Hearts are the spacer and Diamonds and Clubs are used for morse. The first 18 lines have 2 hearts never together so we take these to be spacers but the last 6 lines have a Heart at the beginning and end. Why this change?

    Using Hearts as spacers we are left with this. I put a dash where the Hearts were...

    DD-CDDC-DCCD
    CD-CDDD-CCDC
    DCDD-C-CDC
    DCCC-D-C
    DDD-CCCD-C
    DC-CDCC-C
    CDDD-DCDC-DDCD
    CDC-DDD-DD
    DCC-DD-DCDD
    C-DDCC-CCC
    DCD-DDCC-D
    CCDC-D-CCDC
    DCDC-CDDC-CDC
    CCCC-D-CDD
    CD-C-C
    DCDD-DCC-DCCC
    CDD-DDD-CDCC
    C-D-DDDCC
    DCDC
    DDD
    DCC
    C
    CD
    DC


    Using Diamond for DASH and Clubs for DOT we get this message.


    MPX
    AJF
    YER
    BTE
    OVE
    NLE
    JCQ
    ROM
    DMY
    EZS
    KZT
    FTF
    CPR
    HTW
    AEE
    YDB
    WOL
    ET8
    C
    O
    D
    E
    A
    N

    Let's look at it horizontally like we did the other 2 parts.

    MPXAJFYERBTEOVENLEJCQROMDMYEZSKZTFTFCPRHTWAEEYDBWO LET8
    CODEAN

    Is it double encoded somehow? The last 6 lines that had hearts at beg and end and no spacers spells out CODEAN. CODE AN?


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    I'm only just seeing these puzzles for the first time, I don't have the story and I can't see the pictures so forgive my ignorance, but I find the puzzles themselves to be quite intriguing.

    Considering there are missing letters in the other two suit codes - "Are you ready to rumble" and the other one, and considering that the other one appears to be part of a poem and is not entirely in the right order, then I suggest looking for a way to order these letter groups.

    I assume these are regular playing cards? Do the values suggest an order? Maybe the spacers offer some sort of directional clues? Have you tried to find a pattern in the card values that correspond to the letters in the poem and the intro? Perhaps the missing letters are significant?

    Sorry if this isn't helpful - I'm at a disadvantage here. But I see a new puzzle and I get all twitchy

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    Red face

    I should know better than to post before I read everything...so about my post above...ummm...errr....never mind

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    One thing to add to MDC777’s great recap-

    There are only 24 chapters with the string of ‘suits’ at the end. Chapters 11,14 and 25 do not have any(in part one). This could imply a break to apply within those grouping of letters.

    Applying the break of Chapter 25 to the CODEAN letters— does give CODE AN.


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    CODE AN makes me think Alphanumberic code.
    Whatever I feel like I wanna do. Gosh!

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    If we take the chapters with no "suits" as spaces then the message becomes this...

    MPX
    AJF
    YER
    BTE
    OVE
    NLE
    JCQ
    ROM
    DMY
    EZS

    KZT
    FTF

    CPR
    HTW
    AEE
    YDB
    WOL
    ET8
    C
    O
    D
    E

    A
    N

    What strikes me as important is we can make out words if we read vertically. CODE AN is spelled 1 letter per chapter so it is read from the top down. If we read the fisrt group of letters from the top down you can make out QMYST on the left hand side. QMYST = Quest mystery? Also VLCOMZ = welcomes?

    If we read the message from top to bottom using the empty chapters as spacers the message becomes this...

    MAYBONJRDEPJETVLCOMZXFREEEQMYS

    KZTFTF

    CPRHTWAEEYDBWOLET8

    CODE AN

    The first line looks like it could be a possible sentence.

    MAYBONJRDEPJETVLCOMZXFREEEQMYS

    maybe on J road ep (express?) jet welcomes xfr (transfer?) eee qmyst

    If this is even close to correct it makes me think of the airport. (jet and transfer)

    Any thoughts???

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    My thought on CODE AN is that the suits have a heart at the start and end of each line. This could be telling us to apply CODE AN only to the middle row of numbers above it that have a heart at the start and end.

    That would be this row only...

    P
    J
    E
    T
    V
    L
    C
    O
    M
    Z

    Z
    T

    P
    T
    E
    D
    O
    T

    So how could CODE AN apply to these letters that make the message work? What does AN stand for in the code world?

    Alpha Numeric has been mentioned.
    American?
    the letters A and N? Do we do something only to the letters between A and N?

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    I ran the letters PJETVLCOMZ ZT PTEDOT through a cryptogram solver (a cryptogram is a simple alpha-numeric code) and there was only one solution:

    RAVENOUSLY YE REVISE

    Does that mean anything to you?
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    No it doesn't but thanks.

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    The more I think about it I think CODE AN means change the alpha to numeric. So our code then becomes this...


    13 16 24
    1 10 6
    25 5 18
    2 20 5
    15 22 5
    14 12 5
    10 3 17
    18 15 13
    4 13 25
    5 26 19
    11 26 20
    6 20 6
    3 16 18
    8 20 23
    1 5 5
    25 4 2
    23 15 12
    5 20 8

    I know we can't use page numbers because the 2nd edition of the book has more pages (the font is bigger). What are the different ways we can use these numbers to get a message from the book?

    My first thought is first number is chapter then line number and letter in that line. Does anyone know of any other ways to use 3 numbers on a book?

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