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    I see what you are looking at now. However, the boardwalk itself you can't see from satellite images because it is buried under the trees. The white circular thing east in the open field is a private residence that borders the park. I did visit the park today though, and took several pictures. Some interesting finds, but a couple things still don't quite fit (arc of lights, granite wall). I think everything else fits to a degree, even the word "Lane" at the beginning of the verse.

    The park property with the tree was donated by a Senator Overstreet. If you really wanted to, since Lane is a synonym of Street, and the Conquistador is "over" the rock formation, you could tie Overstreet to Lane.

    I am planning a longer post for q4t with links to all the pics and hypotheses this weekend. In the meantime, here are the pics without descriptions. Interestingly, RIGHT next to the tree is a plaque set in white concrete and creekstone from 1980 on the WEST side of the tree - 40 feet from there is the other tree (seemed like more than 40 feet to me), and it has a rather strange hump on the side of it I have some closeups of - try turning pic6 upside down and comparing the sky portion (that looks like Florida) to the hump.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/madriga...7594183032268/

    More to come...

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    i was looking at the wiki.
    the first thing i thinks of for wingless bird is rocket
    rockets red glare.
    star banner.
    bird key--stono ;can it be seen from the fort.
    patriot point.

    arch of lights
    thiers a piture of the flag under a arch.
    are the 5 flags light at night?

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    In association with image 6 as paired with verse 5 I've been considering this image in mirror reflection:

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    looking at this upside down and recognizing the 1980-way-before-google perspective indicated by news, tourism pamphlets, travel magazines, and good old fashioned word-of-mouth, Haystack Rock is a major Oregon coast feature. I don't know why, but there must be something about a big rock in the water that excites folks...


    I follow the Columbia River east to a spot just past Portland on Historic Highway No. 2 to Exit 22. I turn into this parking lot a couple miles up the road and with just standing in basically one spot I see a remarkable number of visual clues that fit P6. Here's the meat of the solution: standing on one of the ring stones indicated by the yellow circle I look east and see the tree truck in the background fit the position of the Ponce's flagpole. There are no other obvious choices around. It's basically one big tree in the middle of the vista. The peak of mount hood looms over a stone to the south east, walking 12 paces north from its west side puts me exactly back on this line of view but on the opposite side of the large 50-ton (plaque says how heavy it is, how strange to tell onlookers how heavy a rock is..) and right there is a spot centered in a small grassy area (how strange to be in a spot that is centered with respect to ALL surrounding pieces in the perspective. I've drawn lines to show a more precise perspective of how this compares to the same style of square/circle/square/circle construct. Only it's opposite from the image with circle/square/circle inverted edges.





    My mom stands at 12 paces north of me as I stand on the west side of the stone closest to Mt. Hood.


    Here's where my mom was standing marked by the black circle and in line with the perpective.


    Here's a view of the Columbia River that matches the mirrored shape of the bluish area at the bottom of P6.


    The lights at this site are planted in a large circular arc.
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    Its hard to describe the fine details that are apparent to the eye. Here is a crude attempt to describe what part of the boulder is intended to fit. This isn't the best angle on the boulder, but it'll do for this purpose.

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    Verse 5. Image 6

    Lane
    Joseph Lane (1801 – 1881), 1st Governor of Oregon Territory

    Two twenty-two
    Highway, No.2 and Exit, No.22.

    Turn at this sign and head up to the Chanticleer Point/Portland Women's Forum site.


    You'll see an arc of lights
    Crown Point Vista House sits on an arc promontory which is well lit at night. Here is what it looks like when viewed from my proposed casque location:


    Weight and roots extended
    This 50-ton boulder honors Sam Hill (and Sam Lancaster) at the Portland Women's Forum which offers the best view of the Crown Point Vista House.


    Together saved the site
    Large sign with the word "FORUM" "place of assembly [ancient Rome]" "gather together"


    Of granite walls
    Wind swept halls
    Citadel in the night See the Crown Point Vista House. Houses have halls. Citadel as castle i.e. crown.
    I've selected this historical photo because I love the staircase.


    A wingless bird ascended
    Birds may not all have wings, but they all have plumage. Volcanoes have no wings but may have plumes as they wake from dormancy.
    plume (n.) late 14c., "a feather" (especially a large and conspicuous one), from Old French plume "soft feather, down;
    feather bed," and directly from Latin pluma "a feather, down; the first beard," from PIE root *pleus- "to pluck;
    a feather, fleece" (cf. Old English fleos "fleece"). Meaning "a long streamer of smoke, etc." is first attested 1878
    Born of ancient dreams of flight
    A volcano's dream came true on May 18th, 1980.


    Beneath the only standing member
    Of a forest
    A single tree, nearby, stands directly in front of the treasure ground.


    To the south
    White stone closest
    A white capped mountain peak stands over one of the ring stones, none of which are white.
    I love and also hate the fact that there is an intervening hill, tree line, and cloud barrier between the mountain peak and this stone. I had to take a compass reading and look at a map to find the precise location of the mountain peak from this spot.


    At twelve paces
    From the west side
    Puts you exactly between 50-ton boulder and the big tree and inside the ring of stones.

    Get permission
    To dig out.
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    The sign that says "Portland Women's Forum" does have an image of Mount Hood's white cap. I still have to weigh the consideration that this could be the indicator used to locate the white stone rather than finding the actual location of the Mountain. I personally think the compass orienteering idea is way cooler and mildly challenging. It only takes a compass and map. It isn't as hard as people think. Using a map to find any location shouldn't be made out as hard as people make it sound.

    Anyways, here's a point of comparison, the State Park shield emblem and an actual photo of Mount Hood from a popular campsite.

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    Three stones, a boulder, and a tree work with this image.
    Stone 1, stand upon a three or four foot tall ring stone near the 9 o'clock position and take a photo of the boulder with tree in background, having same position as flagpole held by "Ponce".
    Stone 2, while standing on Stone 1 the WHITE peak of Mt. Hood is directly behind and in alignment ONLY with Stone 2 located at the 4 o'clock position.
    Stone 3, near 2 o'clock position from the west side of Stone 2, walk 12 paces north to stand directly in front of Stone 3 which is directly between the Sam Hill Boulder and the one tree, a nobel fir.

    This photo was taken while standing at the west side of Stone 2,



    Taken from the roadside google streetview, photo's taken from the right angles, follow the white line going straight into background puts the tree in the position of Ponce's flag and follow the green line putting the tree just to the right of the "white" stone puts things in a perspective where the boulder and the "white" stone have the same relative position as that of the glacier and Ponce rock in image 6.



    Thus, in two specific ways the puzzle directs us to a stone which is white: 1) geographically, from the position where the white line indicates the tree as "Ponce's" flag pole, the white stone is that rock in line with the white peak of Mt. Hood, and 2) illustration based, the spot where the top of the boulder and the tree is now seen as the location of the palm in the image, then where the white glacier is drawn is also the spot where we find the stone to base our 12 paces north from it's west side.
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    This version interprets a little better.

    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    Three stones, a boulder, and a tree work with this image.
    Stone 1, stand upon a three or four foot tall ring stone near the 9 o'clock position and take a photo of the boulder with tree in background, having same position as flagpole held by "Ponce".
    Stone 2, while standing on Stone 1 the WHITE peak of Mt. Hood is directly behind and in alignment ONLY with Stone 2 located at the 4 o'clock position.
    Stone 3, near 2 o'clock position from the west side of Stone 2, walk 12 paces north to stand directly in front of Stone 3 which is directly between the Sam Hill Boulder and the one tree, a nobel fir.

    This photo was taken while standing at the west side of Stone 2,



    Taken from the roadside google streetview, photo's taken from the right angles, follow the white line going straight into background puts the tree in the position of Ponce's flag and follow the green line putting the tree just to the right of the "white" stone puts things in a perspective where the boulder and the "white" stone have the same relative position as that of the glacier and Ponce rock in image 6.



    Thus, in two specific ways the puzzle directs us to a stone which is white: 1) geographically, from the position where the white line indicates the tree as "Ponce's" flag pole, the white stone is that rock in line with the white peak of Mt. Hood, and 2) illustration based, the spot where the top of the boulder and the tree is now seen as the location of the palm in the image, then where the white glacier is drawn is also the spot where we find the stone to base our 12 paces north from it's west side.
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    I had to rework my approach to this conclusion since I hadn't used the right definition of a pace unit which is about 6ft of travel based on the distance of every other step taken.

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