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    Damn though, if this image doesn't go with this verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moscow32 View Post
    The first chapter
    Written in water
    Near men
    With wind rose
    Behind bending branches
    And a green picket fence
    At the base of a tall tree
    You can still hear the honking
    Shell, limestone, silver, salt
    Stars move by day
    Sails pass by night
    Even in darkness
    Like moonlight in teardrops
    Over the tall grass
    Years pass, rain falls.
    Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) is comprised of chapters across the US, their FIRST CHAPTER is actively represented by those women in the State of Washington.

    The first chapter represents DAR, specifically a plaque with a dedication to an Army engineer in San Juan Island on a very large very significant land mark, the Redoubt Rock in honor of Lt. H.M. Robert.
    Written in water is just like the "Writ in water" memorial epitaph for John Keats and works here to point us to a memorial of some sort. On San Juan Island, there are two memorials, the Redoubt Rock and the Pickett Memorial obelisk, along with a small cemetery south of the American Camp.
    Near men
    With wind rose
    The camp consisted in 1981 of only one remaining building, the Officer's Quarters. Since then, other buildings have been restored to existing foundations, but the working definition of Quarters points us to a military dwelling. This specific site is very exposed to windy conditions and has a lot of rose scrub (labeled as non-contributing) which has been since removed.
    Behind bending branches
    And a green picket fence
    At the base of a tall tree
    points to a fruit bearing tree, an orchard remnant of trees is nearby just north of the redoubt and east of the camp with the picket fence.
    You can still hear the honking Goose Island is just off the eastern shore.
    Shell, limestone, silver, salt All present and very significant to this area and directly stated upon several historical markers with the lime kilns and abalone shell.
    Stars move by day Huge 90 foot flagstaff at American Camp.
    Sails pass by night Implies lighthouse
    Even in darkness A radio beacon (specific to Cattle Point) guides without light.
    Like moonlight in teardrops White (the color of moonlight) blossoming pear (shape of teardrop) trees are of the nearby orchard trees remaining.
    Over the tall grass
    Years pass, rain falls
    Many "glacial erratics" are present on the prairie landscape and a significant point of tourism as well as geological interest. The words "years pass, rain falls" is very similar to the text of a Virginia Woolf book, To the Lighthouse.

    Pairing this interpretation with image 12 works well. The illustration matches three specific land marks perfectly. What's fascinating is the acrostic TO NW WA SAYS SELBY fits all the first letters of the verse when putting the lines in a slightly different order. This may help indicate where we start and where we end, which I haven't yet determined. I think the "base of a tall tree" is one of the Landsbury Poplars on the south side of the Camp.


    http://www.nps.gov/sajh/historycultu...line_color.pdf See this link to recognize the significance of William SELBY Harney and Capt. George Pickett to this establishment. Also see this pdf for a more current and in-depth review of the site: American Camp
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    In search of something consistent with this new hypothesis, I discovered the memorial issued by DAR's first chapter, Washington being the first place of their founding. There isn't any play on words, they are an official organization represented by chapters across the country. The recipient of this honor was significant enough to be included in this pamphlet,


    I spell "TO NW WA SAYS SELBY" using the first letter of each line. Here is a quote from a tourism pamphlet that equates to Selby (William S. Harney's middle name) telling Pickett to go to northwest Washington.

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    Looking at image 12, the rightmost pane shows a Roman numeral clock that reads "11". As it turns out, the historical markers around the American Camp are still unchanged. Marker number 10 is the arched gate and number 11 is the Flagpole. I think that is a serious indication that the Flagpole itself will be required in an alignment type scenario. Arch and Pole? Where could that take us exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erexere View Post
    Looking at image 12, the rightmost pane shows a Roman numeral clock that reads "11". As it turns out, the historical markers around the American Camp are still unchanged. Marker number 10 is the arched gate and number 11 is the Flagpole. I think that is a serious indication that the Flagpole itself will be required in an alignment type scenario. Arch and Pole? Where could that take us exactly?
    This idea might pan out. Turns out it leads to a 2x2 plot of four trees left over from a homestead fruit orchard. This is a reasonable spot given the lack of other options in the vicinity. Doesn't burying a casque in the middle of four equally spaced trees seem like something Byron would do?

    Anyways, I'm posting a visual comparison of how I'm interpreting the structure of this verse. I'm abandoning the Seloy theory in favor of the Selby theory. I'm not trying to irritate folks, this is just an alternative approach. Like I've said before, the Seloy theory is very good and this doesn't represent any criticism of the validity of the St. Augustine location using P6. I
    'm pairing the Selby theory with P12.

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    Near men with wind rose,



    Notice the positions of No.11, the Flag Pole, "stars move by day," a US flag moved by wind.



    The markers are viewable almost in line with eachother from a spot near the arch,



    I noticed that taking a straight line through the arch across the parade grounds puts you at point that might resemble the angles of the arms on the clock panel with a short arm pointing to the No.11 marker and a longer arm to the No.12 marker just to the right of center at the porch of the Officer's Quarters (Near Men).
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    In my view the first two lines are most important in each of the verses for limiting our focus to a specific region.

    The first chapter, has a broad meaning. Some words on a sign in front of FOY is not a generalized enough focus. I think it makes more sense to say it could be applied to any founding of an organization, consisting of chapters, wherever that first chapter relates is a good place to start. I've selected the Daughters of the American Revolution, Washington Chapter is their first. That is in effect saying ANYWHERE in the region of Washington.

    Written in water, is sufficiently close to 'writ in water' words upon gravesite of Keats, is in essence a message of mourning, an epitaph, words after life. Consider the meaning and surmise the merging of message and afterlife: Hermes in Greek or Mercury in Roman.

    Mercury (pron.: /ˈmɜrkjʉri/; Latin: Mercurius listen (help·info)) was a major Roman god, being one of the Dii Consentes. He was the patron god of financial gain, commerce, eloquence (and thus poetry), messages/communication (including divination), travelers, boundaries, luck, trickery and thieves; he was also the guide of souls to the underworld.

    Consider the meaning of 'like moonlight in teardrops', as a clue about a wolf's crying at the moon and the line which fits the description of a silver bullet as a folklore reference to the werewolf.

    Werewoles are killed by silver bullets, silver in general, but also by the liquid metal known as quicksilver aka mercury.

    In terms of word exactness, mercurial or quicksilver is having to do with describing something or somebody as wandering or erratic.

    The plaque I've found by DotAR upon the large glacial (water) erratic (Mercury) on San Juan Island fits this idea.

    I mentioned near men as a clue about pigs. I mentioned a clue about wolves. I'm working with mythology, folklore, and now a childrens story, the three little pigs and the big bad wolf.

    With wind... ...or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house in. The Three Little Pigs is a story about a standoff. The Pig War is a historical standoff between US and Britain. I like the parallel.

    I have no idea where to go with this yet. Its very playful interpretively. More later.



    Suffice it to say I'm dead set on the verse limiting our perspective to a few options:

    1st object: Goose Island
    2nd object: Lighthouse, Radio Antenna - navigation in total darkness
    3rd object: Robert's Redoubt - Glacial Erratic, Plaque to Robert by First Chapter of the Daugthers of American Revolution

    The picket fence and the flagpole.

    I've drawn lines 1-3 to represent a map reading to each of these objects from the flagpole. I believe it's most logical to dig at the fence. The question is, which side of the fence? Am I correct in considering that 'behind' means 'inside' the fenced area?

    Option 3, the rock is the nearest object, but not being there I can't say for sure which is most easily sited. I don't think using a map to pinpoint is a good idea. standing at the exact spot along the fence where the flagpole and the large redoubt rock, if in view, seems to make the most sense. It's easiest that way.

    Those of you who are entertained by my far out theories might notice that I'm finding new ground and dispensing with older theories and complicated ways of finding a spot. Specifically, I'm abandoning the Florence Nightengale - Hospital building idea, the Pickett Memorial (moved from the Redoubt to the parking area of the visitors center after 1981), and the middle of the nearby orchard remnant between four trees.

    I think the word 'rose' is meant as 'rise' for a flag (stars move by day) rising on it's mast. A simple line of two objects on opposite sides of the fence is sufficient to locate a spot. I say dig at the inside side of the picket fence.

    I can still hear the honking

    I really like the Goose Island that this may reference, because Geese do honk as shecrab correctly pointed out.

    Another option is the Bugle, which etymologically points out a reference to the cow or ox, I'm very interested in the Cattle Point Lighthouse, which is perfectly matched to the illustration of the doorway in the leftmost window panel in image 12.

    So, I guess options 1 and 2 are somewhat in conflict. Perhaps I should see this as just two rather than three options. Since both Goose Island and Cattle Point are very distance objects, perhaps it's not a factor whether I choose one or the other, since their use as clues may only be to tell us to look for something in that general direction, more specifically the nearby Redoubt Rock memorial.
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