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    Question Is anyone still playing?

    Has this been solved yet? I made a sort of connection/breakthrough, and figured it would be just my luck . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bytes and Peaces View Post
    Has this been solved yet? I made a sort of connection/breakthrough, and figured it would be just my luck . . .
    I still read the stories every now and again. It is always right here at my desk. I dont think it has been solved but then again, there is no way to know. Other than it disappeared in to oblivion, which means that the author may not of had an end game idea in the works for it.

    When creating and releasing COWBOY I tried to use this book's "out there" format (or lack of) as a benchmark for how what to do and what not to do. I certainly wanted anyone -not just twelevers- who bought into the game to know how to find out if it was still going, no matter what. I actually put this in the book so folks were assured of how to find out. Looking at what other authors/treasure hunt creators have done has been a great tool for the do's and don'ts.

    I'd be curious to what your thoughts were if they are completely different than anythign else that has been said about whistle pig. I truly have thought that if you could get the correct general area, that the WP logo or "Shadow" would be the actual outline of something you would see on a map or web based map such as google. To me it could be a body of water somewhere.

    In the case of most hunts, only time will tell. With this one, time seems to make it more vague and diluted. With The Secret, you can speculate that the remaining nine have been found, inadvertantly dug up, built over, moved on accident, altered, or anything BUT, the difference is we know the hope is still there... this gives those a mystique that differs quite a bit from Whistle Pig.

    Wait, what were we looking for again? Exactly.


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    I stated this in the other forum (Q4T). I don't believe the "key" is real. I think the key was a sort of metaphor for the "key to life"; i.e., the philosophy of Christianity and charity. There are reasons I say this--most of them have nothing to do with the stories per se--only the author, his associations, and his real-life occupation--but the biggest clue was the acrostic in "the Bow" which stated Leave the Center, Bare the Cross, Find the Fruit.

    My biggest problem is that the author says there is a key, but he never EVER says there is a treasure. ONLY a key. That kind of tipped me off that this wasn't a tangible treasure hunt--and may be metaphorical. And as we all know, the word 'key' can mean anything from music to mapping, or math, or even philosophy--pretty much anything he wants it to. I read and re-read the stories and found all sorts of mild, vague, oblique references to all kinds of things. When Duck Miller says that he wanted the stories to evoke an earlier time when knowledge and self-discovery through literary references was more common, he was right. That's pretty much all he does evoke. There isn't a solution, a pattern, a thread that is common to all the stories; there is no concretion anywhere. And some of the writing is odd; why put the acrostic in if it wasn't the biggest clue? Why the page number anomalies? Why the poem in the middle? Why the map at the beginning?

    I even tried translating the titles of the stories into other languages to see if they sounded anything like towns or locations. They didn't. This puzzle is strange, but by now we ought to have found more than simply sets or groups of literary references--and we haven't. That and the fact that there is never any treasure mentioned made me think that there really isn't any solution to this at all--only what WE can get out of it, and the somewhat lukewarm satisfaction that provides.

    But good luck and godspeed to anyone who thinks differently and wants to parse it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shecrab View Post

    My biggest problem is that the author says there is a key, but he never EVER says there is a treasure. ONLY a key..
    So far, I have found enough to make me think there is a physical key located in a watch-fob in DC area, and I have a possible real name for the author's two pseudonyms. The problem is that while the base code is easy, sorting through the hand done paperwork is a hard slog. (It could be done easier with a simple computer program, but I am not so literate.)

    If you want, I could turn over my notes to you and Domino for second opinions. Domino because it could give him ideas for treasure hunt coding even where I am wrong, and you because you have a much better mind for details than I do.

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    I am always game. My hunch was working out from near Pine Grove Furnace in Penn...I forget excatly where but will rifle through my book and notes when I get to my desk tomorrow and see what comes up. I had a location that was a general location of what looked like a man-made lake. Maybe West Virginia, Maryland or PA. The rub was always if I did come up with a general area, what about the specifics? I'd be curious to see what your idea of the end-ganme is for this hunt. As Shecrab said, and I have to agree that it seems this way, it is as if the author wanted us to get or find some intrinsic adventure rather than an actual treasure, per se. Now, it may simply be that book sales did not pan out as if he'd have liked and so he pulled the plug? who knows? This is one reason why I did my hunt the way I did. i wanted folks to know what was out there and see how it was put there (air sealed capsules, shock and impact proof, 4 deep). With WP, he did have a website and a plan...but where was it leading?

    You have me curious and I'd love to help you solve that thing as I am sure anyone on here would help out. For me, you can open forum the ideas, PM or email me directly. I hope you have the solve. And, if not, at least it may lead to a good adventure. On On. Domino


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    If you want, I could turn over my notes to you and Domino for second opinions. Domino because it could give him ideas for treasure hunt coding even where I am wrong, and you because you have a much better mind for details than I do.
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    I haven't picked up this book in years. But I just read over everyone's thoughts here. I believe that this hunt has BOTH a physical, tangible prize, as well as a metaphorical one. I believe the author of "The Whistle Pig" wanted us to ponder over the stories and think back on some other times in history. I think the author wanted us to look for clues to try to figure out who he was writing about, or when he was writing about. I believe he put all the information there for us, but it is up to us to do the work and research to piece it all together. Along the way, it would be a learning experience for everyone.

    As far as there being a real prize, or key, or treasure, I think there are too many strange things in the book that make no sense if the whole book were written to ONLY provide us with an inner journey, or simply a learning experience. Like the strange page numbers, or the map, or even the way the ground hog is drawn---the outline doesn't look right! Like Domino said, it could even be a lake. I think the author wants us to look at things differently. Just like the title, "The Whistle Pig". I didn't know that a whistle pig was a ground hog until I bought this book. These oddities would not have needed to be included, if this was only metaphorical.

    So it is my belief that there is some kind of physical "key" out there.

    It is rather disappointing, however, that no one knows what that key really is. I think this hunt would be more successful, or would garner more interest, if the players knew for sure what was out there. Many of us have seen some treasure hunts fail, and some of us have seen some bogus treasure hunts. There have been creators of hunts who have kept mum about their treasures for many years. Have the treasures been found? Are they really there? Some authors have since died and can't give us answers. We don't want to waste our time doing a treasure hunt that will not produce any results.

    I think Domino has the right idea by both telling us and showing us what we have to gain by solving his treasure hunt.

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    I always thought there was a key also, not perhaps a treasure. I thought maybe there would be at least a note or something with it. To me the title was a clue, three different names for the same thing, whistle pig, ground hog and woodchuck.

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    Happy Whistle Pig Day (Groundhog Day) all!
    "...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve."

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest_blight View Post
    Happy Whistle Pig Day (Groundhog Day) all!

    Thanks FB. back at ya. This hunt is but a shadow of its former self.


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