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    Passepartout is offline Junior Twelever Bronze Passepartout is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Thanks Xodiak. A few more (probably unintentional) red-herrings:

    Clue 2: There is no 'other date' on the Queen Victoria statue. Yes, the Roman numerals read MDCCCLX on one side... but they then continue round the corner with XXVII to make the correct 1887 date.

    Clue 4: There is no link with Old Bermondsey; the vinegar works there are SarsOn, the stone is SarsEn. Nice pun though.

    Clue 19: The Dissolution of the Monasteries would have been 1539, not 1439.

    Passepartout

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    Hi Passepartout

    Roman numerals for Clue 2 is interesting. I assume you've visited Winchester then? I'd just got the 1860 date from the internet (hants gov uk website). I assume 1860 is the answer TWT were looking for as I haven't had a response to my bronze answers. I'm surprised TWT missed the other numerals. I live 175 miles away from Winchester and haven't visited there yet but hope to at some point.

    Xodiak

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    Hi Xodiak,

    You're right, I did make a trip to Winchester a couple of years back we've moved house since, but I'm around 75 miles away so may make another trip sometime. It's a lovely city, and found a fab Belgian beer pub when I went last, though that may be no more, I'm not sure.

    Agreed, the Roman numerals are interesting. I've tried some work with counting Roman numerals within the borders (i.e. M, D, C, L, X, V, I) but no dice.

    I had another idea this evening, using 'herringbone' more literally, but no joy as yet...

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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    Happy 2010... anyone had any joy recently on Winchester Treasure? I had one thought recently. I'd assumed that we had to start counting somehow at clue 11 ('the place to start'). But maybe it just means that the answer to clue 11 will 'help us out with some suggestions'. Maybe the answer - 'In the crypt' is just a word-play hint - in crypt = encrypt. Or similar. Which would point towards a Caesar/Vigenere cipher again.

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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    Hi Passepartout,

    Good to hear from you and to hear you are still working on TWT. I haven't looked at TWT since we last spoke but am keeping an eye on Tweleve in case Winnie should ever turn up again.

    I've been working on The Oracle recently. It's a nice book but I can't get started at all so haven't got totally immersed in it like I did with TWT.

    Best wishes for 2010 and good luck in your hunting.

    Xodiak

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    Thanks Xodiak. I agree, TWT is immersive and it's a shame no-one's cracked it yet. I'll have a look and see what other hunts are out there too. One thing about not solving TWT is that I now at least have a stack of methods to try & bring to bear on another hunt!

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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    I still look in too.

    In trying to locate the relevant page for no 11, I've come across the instruction page which looks rather illuminating.

    'Within these pages lies the solution. You have to discover what the treasure is and where it was hidden. I say 'was' hidden because it has been moved. But if you want to win it you can submit your answers by following the rules at the back of the book.

    Everything you need to find it is within these pages.'

    So the treasure sounds like a real treasure that was found and then moved. And you have to find where it was hidden originally. And then it seems as if you need no internet for the puzzle just the book, which has lengthy descriptions of each place anyway. I'm curious about the treasure - was it something historical which was found and then moved to a museum for instance or was it a specific hunt treasure? It seems more like the former, but you'd think it would have to be a private find to be given as a prize rather than something important in a museum.

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    Hi Flora,

    I've read the instruction page so many times trying to ensure I've extracted every last clue from it. You could be right about a real treasure being found and moved, but my personal opinion is that the reason for saying it has been moved is that the hunt organisers didn't want people digging holes all over Winchester. If they say it has been moved then the only way to get your hands on the treasure is to submit the answer via their website.

    I agree that the instruction "everything you need is within these pages" is important. I'm sure they wouldn't say that if you needed to find additional info on the internet.

    Regards
    Xodiak

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    Hi Flora! Like both of you, I have wondered if that means that the answer will be spelt out (literally) for us in the book, or whether it will rather give us a few words that require further investigation on t'web. For what it's worth, I had an exciting moment in bed last night (steady). After trying a new method, I found myself spelling out three consecutive words that formed a phrase! And it didn't require an anagram either, they were there on numerically-increasing page numbers. Only problem is that the words are fairly short in length, but the phrase they make is intriguing. I'm almost loathe to go searching for that phrase on the Internet, as it's so rare to have a ray of TWT sunshine that I want to bask in it a bit longer before the grey cumulo-nimbus of truth blocks it out once more

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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    Well, looks like my 'find' was just a coincidence of letters. as I can make nothing of them. For what it's worth, the phrase they 'spelt' was I CRY RAIN.

    Anyway, I'm beginning to think more and more that there must be some code/encryption (probably Caesar/Vignenere) in here somewhere, as I've tried SO many direct attempts just using the plain letters around the borders, with no success, that I'm finding it hard to believe that there's anything in clear-text to be found.

    For what it's worth, the DNS entries for the Winchester Treasure websites expired today (Feb 2nd) and the .co.uk one has been renewed for another couple of years, so it looks hopeful that the organisers are still running the hunt (yes, I work in I.T.!)

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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