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    I wonder if this is thinking like a cruciverbalist Winnie? ....

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    I agree Hog

    A year ago PhiltheBear said "Hey ho! It's nearly Easter. The hunt has been going for over a year - and you still haven't solved it." So it's been two years now... I am getting near the point of posting all my findings and thoughts in the hope that someone can make more use of them than I can... c'mon Winnie, any chance of a hintette?

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    Yes, isn't it strange that this Easter came and went without any Winnie - wisdom at all?

    I would think the second anniversary might deserve perhaps a mini-hintette at least.

    ................... From a most befuddled little piggy.

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    Could be that Winnie's on a long Easter break (at least I hope so!)... in the meantime, would you like to see a magic trick?

    How to make the Winchester Treasure disappear...

    Pay heed to both the bird and fish - the fish is a red herring, and the falcon clue contains the cryptic phrase 'no TV'.

    'no TV' = No Thesaurus Ventae = No Winchester Treasure!

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    So you must be Merlin the Magician ......... and therefore the falcon. Do you remember us meeting in Eleanor's garden?

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    Talking of birds, for a minute I thought all these 'quackquackquack's were a hint to which bird we should heed. Unfortunately though, it's happened to every forum (not just Winchester Treasure) so looks like either Tweleve's been hacked or it's an April Fool...

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    Ok, as it's all gone quiet, here are my thoughts on how one might heed the bird. I don't know which bird to heed, so here's thoughts on all three possibles. Here are a few facts for each.

    Bird 1: The falcon.

    It's a falcon.
    It's looking at the letter 'N'.
    The answer for question is Ca..... (I won't write it in full in case anyone's still working on the Bronze hunt)
    It's in a circular photo.

    Likely candidate? Yes, as it's the only one to have its own picture.


    Bird 2: The Black Swan

    It's a swan.
    The answer to its question is related to detective work and puzzle-solving.

    Likely candidate? Maybe, for the reason just given.


    Bird 3: The stuffed birds

    They're stuffed.
    They were in a museum.
    The answer to its question concerns pictures, which could very well relate to the 'places that you see'.

    Likely candidate? Possibly - it is the only one where the word 'bird' actually appears (well, 'birds' plural actually)

    There's also a fourth possible bird - the doves above the falcon. Not much to say about these though.

    I've tried heeding all these birds in various ways, but without success yet. Hopefully someone else will fare better!

    Passepartout

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    Well, I might have made a breakthrough... I *may* know what the key is. It fits well with everything (including what Winnie has said on these boards), except doesn't have anything to do with Italy's sun/France's snow as far as I can see. It feels right though. Now I have to figure out how to count it...

    Passepartout

    P.S. is anybody else out there, or am I typing this to myself? (I know Hog is still around sometimes; anyone else?)

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    Hi P,

    Yes, I think it's just thee and me left now. Everyone else has dropped off to sleep !!

    I've also been trying to use a key, or rather trying several different possible ones. All of which have so far failed to give me any result. Italy's sun & France's snow have been put on the back burner hoping that they'll become self evident later on. My best bet for the bird is the falcon in Eleanor's garden.

    My problem is that when I think I might have a key, I start looking round for confirmers, both to say that it's right and then to say how to use it. It's that blasted cruciverbalist thats the problem. Winnie says we have to think how we would solve a crossword. Okay, and then we have to use the time machine. Back and forth in time we go ..... there are plenty of dates in the text ..... too many I'm thinking ..... and then how would we use them ?

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    Hi Hog,

    Yes, I'm stuck on the 'back & forth through time we go' bit too... Winnie has made allusions to Dr. Who and to The Time Machine, suggesting time-travel is important once we find a key. It may mean we have to either:

    1) Count the letters round the picture pages, in a circular fashion, like the hand of a clock moving round.

    or

    2) Somehow sort the clues in date order. My best bet would be by the first year to appear in the text of each clue. But if 'Ah! The place to start is found' refers to clue S6, then maybe it would mean sort by the earliest date to appear in each clue, as this clue contains the earliest date in the book (I think).

    I would favour 1) though...

    Passepartout

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