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    Hi Flora (Ceres!), Writerian, stvwz,

    Glad to see that there's still some interest in TWT! From what Xodiak posted, it looks like he/she may be further than anyone else, having found an apparently bona-fide red-herring that isn't just the B8 reference.

    I still trudge on... I have recently found what would be a quite elegant and apt solution to the 'what' part of the puzzle, but it may be too convoluted to be correct... and I wouldn't know the 'where' part to accompany it (though I could make an educated guess).

    I really don't know... one thought was that maybe the 'bird'/'N' letters could be Caesar-ciphered using a 21 letter shift (count the places that you see = 21 places), but no joy there.

    I hope all is well at TWT towers, I wouldn't think they'd leave us high & dry... just wish we could get a response!

    All the best,

    Passepartout

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    One other thing - Flora, in your code, shouldn't S8 be 'S' rather than 'D' (assuming the sentence begins with 'Henry')?

    Passepartout

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    Hi Passepartout,

    I reconsidered that one and found that the sense was better if you start with Seized, since Edward was captured by de Montfort at the same time as Henry III(his father), but subsequently he escaped and then rescued Henry. The other way round, the sentence would suggest that he rescued Henry before being seized by de Montfort. Depends who you think the subject of the two clauses is, maybe. I think it could refer to Edward in both parts ie both 'Seized by de Montfort' and 'Rescued Henry'. Otherwise a third option would read 'Henry, seized by de Montfort, rescued.' That doesn't read too well IMO. But of course I may have been biased in that 'Seized by de Montfort, rescued Henry' gave the D of Crusades.

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    Thanks Flora I hadn't considered that it could refer to Edward. I agree, it is a bit ambiguous that one. On the subject of the letters, I did wonder if there might be any clues derived from the sentences, e.g.

    i) The Westgate, more than meets the eye - could this be a cryptic clue?
    ii) Swithun-Upon-Kingsgate church door - anything special about this door?
    iii) Seek Jane Austen's sister Cassandra - why seek her?

    However, the answers I've come up with are:

    i) No. At least, not as far as I've made out.
    ii) No
    iii) No reason to. She's buried at Chawton cemetery (if my memory is correct), which doesn 't seem to have any bearing on this hunt.

    All the best,

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    I found more than one of those page phrases have ambiguous starting points which does make everything that much harder than it already is.

    I'll have a look at your questions about the meaning of the phrases, I've got bogged down with more anagrams this morning, although a slight adjustment to one I already had looks to have an interesting 'place' in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stvwz View Post

    I bought a book off Amazon which did not have a code> Follow the directions in the Winchester website (or is it in the book itself?) by emailing for a specific code> They responded to mine a couple of months ago.

    good luck

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    Thanks for the tip stvwz,

    I got my book from Amazon too which is probably why it doesn't have the code in it either. I followed the instructions in the book and on the website but never got a reply which is why I tried contacting the organisers via the forum.

    Hey ho .... maybe, as Winne has been on this forum fairly recently, I'll give it another shot as you suggest.

    Thanks again


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    Quote Originally Posted by Passepartout View Post
    Thanks Flora I hadn't considered that it could refer to Edward. I agree, it is a bit ambiguous that one. On the subject of the letters, I did wonder if there might be any clues derived from the sentences, e.g.

    i) The Westgate, more than meets the eye - could this be a cryptic clue?
    ii) Swithun-Upon-Kingsgate church door - anything special about this door?
    iii) Seek Jane Austen's sister Cassandra - why seek her?

    However, the answers I've come up with are:

    i) No. At least, not as far as I've made out.
    ii) No
    iii) No reason to. She's buried at Chawton cemetery (if my memory is correct), which doesn 't seem to have any bearing on this hunt.

    All the best,

    Passepartout
    i) Something more about it than just a gate. In the area, the pig in the question. For itself, it is now a museum with archives of Winchester including the Winchester weights and 'measures'.

    ii) The door is unusual in that inside it leads upstairs to the church which is on the second floor over Kingsgate.

    iii) Cassandra also a mythological character from Troy. Something is measured in troy.

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    Hi All,

    Hope you are all well.

    No progress to report from me I'm afraid - have spent another couple of intense weeks on TWT for nothing. My efforts now could be described as "clutching at straws" and "desperate".

    For your information, I've still had no response to my bronze/silver entries or the several e-mails that I have sent to WT.

    Xodiak.

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    Thanks Xodiak. I have also tried contacting the organisers without success. I have tried the 'official' WT email addresses, and even (after some investigation) a couple of email addresses used by their other business interests, but aside from an automated response, I have had no response at all. It is possible that they are on an extended holiday, or - and I sincerely hope this isn't the case - they're actually unable to respond, for whatever reason.

    However, whatever the cause, it's beginning to look like The Winchester Treasure has joined the list of Abandoned Hunts...

    Don't suppose you feel like giving us all a hint to that red-herring you found then, Xodiak?

    All the best,

    Passepartout

    (P.S. my last thoughts were that maybe we have to jump around, e.g. use 'S6' to jump 6 pages forward, 'B4' four pages back, or similar, but nothing doing. Using the Bronze/Silver numbers to count letters on each page doesn't work either.)

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    It all is a bit concerning. However, as far as entries goes, I did try one last week and got two emails about it. One saying that the answer would have to be checked and that if nothing further was heard to assume that it was wrong. Then a day later, a further email to say that it was incorrect.

    The first was from entries@winchestertreasure.co.uk:

    'Thank you for your entry. If your entry was for the GOLD competition it will be manually checked. If you are successful we will inform you as soon as we can. If you don't hear from us then you can assume that you didn't get the answers right.

    If your entry was for BRONZE and/or SILVER it will be manually inspected and we will inform you of the result as soon as possible.

    Good Luck

    The Winchester Treasure'


    And the second from sales@winchestertreasure.co.uk:

    'Dear Helen,

    Regretfully, your answer to the Gold competition entry was incorrect.

    The Winchester Treasure is still waiting to be found.

    Kind regards

    The Winchester Treasure'

    So someone is checking the answers it seems.

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