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    PM from ken:

    Basically without copying it, it says he will only post if I make it a sticky and if it is a separate thread from charles. Why? not sure but ok!

    This thread is just for ken so please refrain from posting until he does.

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    Default Titled: A Brief response from KenThePuzzleGuy

    Hello everyone,

    First, I would like to thank Tweleve.org for having this forum where people can have discussions about all of the treasure hunts out there. Second, I would also like to thank CharlesLS for deciding to purchase our book and participate in our contest.

    CharlesLS has asked that I respond to 5 questions.


    YOUR QUESTION (1) Ken, you advertised this as a contest designed, unlike in your view ATT, to reward the first solvers of your puzzles with prizes. How do you reconcile this with treating the first submission on puzzle 6 in exactly the same manner as the 200th.

    1. Simply stated, the first 200 people who correctly answer in its entirety will be awarded the prizes for that level. Submissions are checked in the order that they are received by us.


    YOUR QUESTION (2) You introduced rules stating that you would use verification puzzles to ensure that each puzzle was solved by the person who submitted it. You also stated that the rules on puzzles 6-11 were not in order to delay payments, but rather to ensure that people did not give out solutions. Now that you have verification puzzles in place, why won't you treat puzzles 6-11 like all of the others and check our submitted answers?

    2. While we have introduced the possibility of a verification puzzle, we hope that it is something that we never have to utilize. However, we will if we feel that people have not played honestly. It is something that is necessary to protect our honest contestants who are working hard to solve our puzzles. We feel that it is our duty to make every attempt to see to it that the prizes end up in the right hands. Unfortunately, some people may decide to use all of the tools at their disposal and attempt to not play fair.


    YOUR QUESTION (3) You stated that you would not check answers because telling somebody whether their answer was correct provided a hint. Was I really hearing this right? If telling somebody their answer is incorrect provides a hint, why will you do this for puzzles 2-5? If telling somebody their answer is incorrect provides a hint, why would you bother with a 15-day waiting period for wrong submissions? And for that matter, are you really trying to tell me that somebody who has not solved a puzzle will be helped by learning that their solution is incorrect, without any further elaboration, and given the 15-day waiting period?

    3. Absolutely, I can state to you that by telling people whether their answer submission is correct or not would be providing a hint without any further elaboration from us. And I am sorry, but saying more on that would simply be a hint in and of itself. You should review your submission before you send it. If you feel that there is a mistake then you are welcome to resubmit your answer in 15 days as several people already have.

    You have mentioned that you felt that some puzzles have multiple answers. It simply is not true. None of our answers are subject to interpretation. There is only one answer to each puzzle.


    YOUR QUESTION (4) If checking answers provides a hint, does that mean when 200 people have submitted the answer to #6, if, say, 190 of them have it right but 10 have it incorrect, you will not tell the 10 who have it incorrect that they were wrong? If so, doesn't that make it even tougher for this contest to truly reward the first people to solve a puzzle?

    4.) With regard to us making it tougher for this contest to reward the first people to solve a puzzle it is absolutely not true. We will reward (for example puzzle number 6) the first CORRECT 200 solutions. Once all of the winners are awarded, we will place all of the names on our web site. No one will be informed until we have enough winners as specified in the rules.


    YOUR QUESTION (5) You told us that you created on puzzle with help from a book, and that you would point us to the source when enough copies had been sold. Does this mean the contest will probably not have a winner unless you sell enough books? If not, why did you write a puzzle this way.

    5.) While it is true that I did use a particular book in one of my solutions, it is not necessary to have that particular book in order to solve the puzzle. Again, I simply cannot go into detail in that it would be providing a clue.


    Again, thank you for your questions.

    Also, CharlesLS, thank you for your offer to assist us in writing puzzles for our second book which is already in the works.

    Finally, this will be the last post that I will be placing.

    We wish everyone the best of luck.

    KenThePuzzleGuy

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    winmywpbhome.com is a book comprised of 12 puzzles. The winner will receive a home located in West Palm Beach, Florida and up to $2.5 million. There are also smaller prizes that total over $2.0 million. Good Luck to everyone.

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    OK, I can see how Charles can feel this way, a little. But Ken has to organize this in such a way so that its fair to everybody. The only way to do that is to make sure that the honest and fair people win. Anyone who can solve the first 8 in 10 days is either a computer himself, or used a high tech computer that very few people have access to. I've been working on them for 3 months, and still cant get #7. I think Im close though.

    Charles, If I were you, I'd just be quiet about it, and if your stilll interested in treasure hunting, wait for Secrets of the Alchemist Dar, or try and solve the MenageriE (I still dont get the capital E thing at the end).

    Theres plenty of other hunts you can participate in Charles. I wish you good luck with them. I know your pretty smart with out a computer, and you can do it

    Keep keeping it Fair Ken!
    ~~Mark~~

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    This forum was made for people to discuss their thoughts and ideas about the different hunts. You can't tell Charles to "just be quiet about it" He has the right to express the way he feels. If you don't like what he has to say then just don't read his posts and keep at the puzzles yourself.

    Good for you for being 14 yrs old and being on #7.....but don't be too cocky about it...Everyone works at their own pace and works on the puzzles in their own time. There is no need to keep reminding us your age and how far you are. I wish you the best of luck in solving the remaining puzzles! If you win this, it will be a great accomplishment for someone your age...just keep focusing on that!
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    I was just suggesting to be quiet about this situation alone. I have nothing against CharlesLS at all.

    I may have been a little "cocky" about my age and being on 7, just becaus I want to encourage more people to buy the book. I dont intend to make other feel bad, or anything like that. I have gotten remarks that my posts here have persuaded them to buy the book, and they're glad they did.

    No hard feelings to anyone
    ~~Mark~~

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    There is no reason for him to be quiet about this situation. It's like me asking you to be quiet about what puzzle you are on and how old you.
    He has his opinions, and just like you posting your remarks and some people liking them and buying the book...some people may want to hear his comments to make their own decision about the book.

    I, along with others, have found that the majority of your posts include your age and how far along you are in the puzzles, not encouraging but actually you just wanting to brag.

    We could be totally wrong but that is how a lot of people perceive you and your posts

    Again I wish you luck in your puzzle solving!!!
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    Ken, I appreciate your reply. Thank you.

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    netsirk i'm confused. yes mark13 seems a little cocky but doesn't he have a right to post anything he wants in the same way that charlesls does? you're defending charles' right to post whatever annoying thing he wants but saying that mark shouldn't post cocky stuff. so weren't you doing the same thing to mark that mark was doing to charles? i don't think you should tell mark not to post his age and be cocky anymore. now wait a minute, i'm doing the same thing to you. someone please post and tell me not to tell people what to post or what not to. i'm so confused. i have nothing against any of you. i just thought this was odd.

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    Hilarious....is what this is ...

    thats MY story, and I'm stickin to it !!!!


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    MODERATOR, this sketch is getting TOO funny!

    Fetch the comfy chair!

    Mark

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