# Thread: Page 55 Coincidence?

1. ## Page 55 Coincidence?

I get 'Bayou SP' by counting the fingers of the Darklings in order as they appear in the drawing around Chapter 11's title page (not the photo-shopped outer margin).

The last two letters (S,P) are easiest so I'll start with them:
Lower right hand border---man holding pike with 4 fingers. To the left is our friend sitting with the 'J'- shaped hook, showing one finger. Since it's read left to right, this is the last letter 1,4 (P).

The J-hook dude's right hand is showing 3 fingers and a thumb. To his left is another man sitting, whose left hand is showing 3 fingers. So, left to right, this is 3,4, (S).

The last two letters are therefore, SP.

So that's how I'm doing it. Starting from the beginning, about 80% of the way up the left side, a hand is holding the shaft of a curved pike (just above the sword that swathes across). That's all five fingers (5). Going down to the group of splotchy men with top-knots in their hair, a man's curled fist showing 4.

Next, go down to the Serpent's head. You'll see that he's grasping the head of an orc with a 4-taloned claw. This pairs to the 5-fingered fist just to the right of the claw.

Next, is the man in the lower left corner holding his achey head in splayed fingers. There's five fingers and no thumb (maybe that's why he looks sad). Anyway, the first two fingers are separated (1,1), then two fingers together (2), followed by a last finger (1). So this hand has two letters, (1,1 and 2,1).

Heading off to the right bottom margin, the hand holding aloft a wicked axe has 5 fingers. This pairs to the right hand of the man sitting to the left of the dude with the 'j-hook'. His right hand is supporting his head, and shows 3 fingers.

Then there's the SP I talked about.

In order, it's

5,4
4,5
1,1
2,1
5,3
3,4
1,4

Or: U, Y, A, B, O, S, P

I liked the SP, and went back and forth, playing with the first five letters, thinking maybe the talon/hand should be reversed (for example), when I realized something. JBAIRD SP was so short it had to be anagrammed. The first five letters U, Y, A, B, O makes BAYOU.

There's a Bayou State Park in Louisiana in the town of Westwego. There's also a Bayou State Park in Florida, near Niceville.

Not enough to go looking, unfortunately (at least for me). Also, the LA park is very close to New Orleans. The website says it's open, however.

Someone had posted that he'd figured Clue 3 to say " Ana and Rusful tokens can be found on page 36' (or something like that). I was skeptical, but looked anyway. The only possibility I could see for an encoded message on that page was in the numbers of fingers displayed by the Faeries. This made me think about page 55.

I reckon it's just a coincidence. If I lived hard by one of these parks, I might go nosing around.

Perchprism

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wow i think you might be onto something!!! nice work!!! i got my book and followed what you said..you are onto something i can feel it!!! im going to take a look at the sp's i will let you know if i see anything that matches!

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## page 55

Hi I am new to this but I have been working very hard to find answers. I saw the same as you did Bayou S P. I am working the small pictures now. but go one step further. I went to digitizers word puzzle and moved the words around. How are jars made? by fire in a kiln. I believe with all the clues I have gotten thus far that looking in trees is no longer the hunt. I believe the new hunt starts with Rusful and it is for endangered species. Go to page 45 look at the S and where the faerie is pointing need a magnifying glass. It is the shape of a Manatee. At the manatees nose is a black box. The faeries hand is in the center of the black box. Around the S looks like tree trunks but the Faerie is ponting to something new. The Manatee is an endangered specie.
I cut out the picture on page 80 and put the pieces to the jars together. I get four jars or four endangered species or four pitchers. The two large kettles are fire pots. To cook in.
Does this make sense?
Taffy

4. Photogypsy--personally, I don't like the answer, 'Bayou SP'. The SP is there, all right, but the Bayou part had to be anagrammed. Then, there isn't enough info to go to ground with, so it's useless. It is just a coincidence. However, I like the notion of counting Fairy Fingers to get grid coordinates.

Page 36 is intriguing. Lots of fairies, lots of fingers. Enough to get a proper message, if one is there. The artwork is terrible. The worst in the book. Looks hurried, and sloppy. That heap of fairies in the upper left-hand corner looks like they were playing a game of Twister when a real twister came along. Heads, torsos, limbs everywhere. The hands (and fingers) in particular are drawn haphazardly, perhaps to avoid attention as being irrelevent.

My thinking is that since I'll never solve the on-line clues, my best chance is to guess what the clue(s) might say, and my guess is the clues will point to the page in the book that holds the solution to Rusful's location. Maybe there'll be additional info on what exactly to piece together on the page. I've been looking at all pages that contain either Rusful or Darklings. Page 36 only has a bunch of fairies, and Ana holding Pook. Looks doubtful for Rusful, but who knows?

Taffy-- endangered species makes no sense to me. There's been nothing stated officially or written in the poem that points to that. Prior to the Dragonfly being found, anything made about as much sense as another, but when the D'fly was found, and the solution method made public, all known hidden tokens were likewise discovered in relatively short order.

All we know for sure is that Rusful is hidden somewhere, and we're supposed to need the book to find out where. If we do need the book, that is, if MS encoded Rusful's location at the same time as the others, then almost for certain you'll need to use a 5 x 5 grid, and you'll need to have matched up something like leaves or colors or shapes to plug into the grid. There's no need to inject anything else to complicate the problem--consider the beetle page, for example. Even when everyone knew what page to work on, the sheer number of possibilities proved daunting.

I have cut three books to flinders. It was all a waste of time. You cut up page 80. If you have another book, try matching up the pottery fragments into relative sizes, 1 thru 5, or by colors or something. I've tried and failed, but you might be more successful. I've also tried (and failed) to match up the trees in the border of page 16, different color combos on pp 20/21, the vine-knot groups on page 69, and the berries/leaves on page 10. These all appear to be unsolved puzzles to me.

Perchprism

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Hey, Perch
Neat work on the darkling fingers. Maybe the directions I saw around the border on that page will apply. Are there enough different staves to also get a grid? I never looked at that. I think I may know how to arrange Clue5-6. Just waiting for more letters - hopefully this Saturday night.
Chris

6. Hey all. Just came back to see if anyone was still working this. I just found out about the additional clues today.

Will say that I am VERY surprised that there is not more discussion here. Perch, good to see you still working it.

I think MS has been very tricky with the clues starting from #3. He has really been putting together stuff that is much more challenging. I think a lot of the treasure hunters on this site left when the 5x5 grid could no longer be used and the original tokens were found. Many people don't want to put in the real work and unfortunately rode the coattails of those who uncovered the 5x5 grid solution.

Seems to me that the two most recent clues will have some overlap of the boxes. I was a bit dissappointed to count 120 squares at first (5x24) as I thought they would originally fit into the 100 boxes in clue 3...
but with some overlapping, they might still fit.

7. ## still working

To go along with the 100 box theory, since we have no letters in the middle squares what if we subtract those 24 leaving us with 96. Still not 100 but sounds logical.

8. Renart, why don't you remind me what those directions were?

Actually, Bayou SP as a solution can be confirmed by going thru the fingers, I just am not convinced enough to travel from North Carolina.

Animal Painter sent me a map of the Park in Louisiana, and there is some similarity to the Drop Cap on page 78.

It's too risky for me. Gotta have more info. The Dragonfly and Ladybug resisted discovery for several days, even with detailed location info.

Perchprism

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Perch, I you recall, once the page was mirrored. looking at the borderand starting at the bottom left of the page, it looked something like "ten feet from the trail.......knothole 4 feet up the trunk.....over the parking lot. If you get close, I'll email the rest of it. However, it may just be my imagination again, to see the letter shapes. Maybe it will help in the absense of a specific map frag, though you know my take about that.
Chris

10. ## Lousiana

Didn't MS grow up in the Louisiana area? Seems a likely place to me for the ole Alchemist Dar to hang out. Good Luck guys!