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    Thanks for making this even more interesting cw0909...the other angles have got to mean something too. It would follow that they would point to pages too. Or if not pages, what else, I wonder?

    godawes that is really good about the backwards "Z" and turning the 36 around to 63! Do you think that could also apply to the 46 to get 64?

    I haven't looked for letter crosses yet, but there are a lot of interesting things on pp. 41 and 63. Pp. 41, 63, and 55 all have the same pickensrooter, and the same leaf with the odd-shaped hole in it, along with the same curly-bottomed leaf. The pickensrooter is sitting on top of this leaf on p.63. These two leaves are pictured under the word "key" in the poem line "Within the text you have the key" (p.4 and we know how the text was used for the crosses. I don't know how this fits in yet, but on pp.41 and 63 there are lots of N S E W directional clues. The odd-shaped hole is a basic compass rose. (See my thread "Rusful California and p.41" in "New Ideas)

    I was trying to figure out the possibilities for using the letters in the blocks on p.63 for crosses somehow. There are 24 blocks showing there (counting the "The" block in the dropcap, and not counting the mini-blocks at the edge. (?)

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    spigan

    Page 63 had two clues on it. one was the grain direction a solve for a bug
    and the other is a message using the letters of the blocks . this secnod clue
    or message i don't recall what it said . it had something to do with the same color block boarders and letter . i thing it read from top left to right clockwise not sure.
    web clue our colored crosses might need to be exchanged letter for letter or color for color ???????????????????????????

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    Godawes--FIND THE TREES HOLE
    the letters were red/red -pink/pink-green/green like THE block on 64 which is the first word on the page with the pickensrooter's toe pointing at it.
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    spiggan no prob not sure what any of it means. knew they were pg. #s
    after i measured and looked. the protractor i use is a precision
    protractor sorta like a speed square only speed protractor
    jenny j not sure about being simpler, M S says the puzzles are simple
    but they seem to take a lot of work to say duh simple.
    my kid mention something about the crosses and #3 clue,
    they do some kinda math thing with crossword puzzles, i guess to make
    math more interesting. instead of useing the coords like we do in the
    5 x 5 grid, say the #s are 2-4 you go to the second space and move that
    letter to the fourth place and im not sure what else is involved as she
    has never brought this home as h-work. i havent tried any thing like that
    but it does seem simple except for the colors maybe they dont matter
    in these clues

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    Yeah I agree that all these different angles and page numbers make it look pretty complicated. But maybe there's something that would simplify things. When they finally announce the solution, I know I'll be hitting my head!

    I was wondering about p.55, since the 55 degree angle was most directly connected to the 66. Something that did catch my eye on p.55 last night are those six weapons in the border illustration that jut into across the line into the white text area. They do form angles. I wonder if the "angle degree" hint in the Starz clue could be a clue to measure these angles too?

    If so maybe these numbers from the angles of these 6 weapons would be used for something. Here is just an idea--maybe lattitude/longitude coordinates, or maybe GPS coordinates? Lattitude/longitude would each have 3 different numbers--one for degrees, one for minutes, one for seconds--totalling 6 different numbers. Seems a coincidence there are 6 weapons there too. The roundish club looks like it could stand for degrees. Longitude of Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso would be between 122 and 123 degrees W, Lattitude would be between almost but not quite 38 degrees N.

    If not, it's good for a laugh anyway

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    cw0909--I was wondering, what do those angles of the weapons on p.55 measure? I don't have a protractor, and I've been trying to guess. If you don't have time to d it that's okay, maybe someone else might want to measure them. Within the white text area there are 3 dark weapons and 3 light weapons, of 3 lengths.

    The two largest weapons cross each other. There are two medium ones on each side of those. The two small ones are at the top. I wonder what are the angles of:

    1. The largest light-colored weapon--what is the angle it makes to the horizontal bar line? (measuring the left side angle, not right side) Or alternatively, what is the angle it makes to the dark weapon crossing it (left side)? My speculation is that these first two could be longitude/lattitude degrees.

    2. The largest dark weapon--what is the angle it makes to the previous one crossing it (the angle formed within their cross)?

    3. The medium light-colored weapon on the left of those--what is the angle formed within its two prongs?
    4. The medium dark weapon on the right--what is the angle formed within its two prongs from point to point?

    I'm thinking these medium two would represent minutes of long/lat. The symbol for long/lat. minutes is two points each
    " "

    5. The smallest light-colored weapon--what is its angle to the bar (left or top side)

    6. The smallest dark weapon--what is its angle to the bar? (left or top side) I'm thinking these could be long/lat. minutes, since the symbol for these is one point for each ' '

    This is just an idea. Seems like p.55 would have been used for something in the Rusful solve, especially since in the Starz clue the 55 degree angle is drawn within the 66 degree angle. Could mean p.55 supported the info on p.66.

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    spiggan sounds interesting ill ckeck and get back with info

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    well ive done all kinds of things to the starz clues and still cant figure
    out what 1,2,3, are for even though amy got the solve from the letters
    from pg 66 i just dont see how unless you live near the place and
    could see it in the letters. so whats the vote on that M.S. was helping us along by adding letters to the crosses. i dont buy that idea.
    for one, 2 weeks to a month doesnt seem like enough time to warrant
    help on the clues, chezz clue 3, 4 have been around since aug. and sept.
    with no help. so im at a lost to were all these clues[ 3,4, starz 1,2,3,4,]
    lead, tokens, info ,ect. i do not think the hunt is over yet though. have been trying some of docs ideas, not enough info to make the n,w,e,s,
    thing work for crosses or i just cant see it. missing the old 5x5,which i dont
    think any of the new clues are. thanks for letting me vent,almost as good as head banging

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    All I can see is that in each word for the solve the letters are a different color. What I mean is there are no repeats of the center letters used for the solve in each of the words.
    I cannot find a clue as to how they were to be ordered. Still working on it. Really ticks me off that I can't solve it when I have the answer! Or is it the answer or close enough to find the token?
    Is the real answer worded a bit differently? Would explain all the
    long waits for a solve and the long wait for Rusful to be posted as missing.
    I did find out that the official name for the whole park (and more) is the Golden Gate National Recreation Area known as the GGNRA. There is that pesky GN that was leftover.
    Remember Meow's Muir solve? Well, Muir is also listed in that area. Meow you were SOOOOooo close!
    jj

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    Looking at this again....

    Judging from the background clues, how would the triangle be formed?

    The north pole appears to be important.

    Is it possible to deduce that a triangle is formed from points positioned at 'north', 'west', and 'east'? Or, 'north', 'east', 'south', etc.?

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