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    I like that idea of 5 clues to each token... logical and as you so correctly stated, could and would use all to pinpoint the token. Excellent idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectrechaser
    Quote Originally Posted by cabunk
    If you go on that line of thought, it could have been certain pictures/objects that when placed together, made a new picture. So maybe we aren't dealing with numbers or letters, but either text or pictures.
    Okay, but isn't the 5x5 based on the part of the poem that reads, A Code Of Numbers Five To A Side? So whether or not the 5 to a side is a 5x5, a triangle, a moon/time circle, upside down, backwards, forwards, or out my window, we ARE still looking for numbers right?
    I want to stick to the text but the pictures keep haunting me!
    Well, that's one part of it. I think there is a puzzle that involves a code of numbers. But I think the box in Zac's dream is different. "He could see things he had never seen before and he took those things and filled the small boxes with them." Obviously, he's seen letters and numbers before....so I think if that's what we were dealing with, there'd be a better hint within the text. Because there are three different grids shown at the beginning of chapters, and one mentioned in the text that is similiar, but, still different, I think there are at least 4 different grids to solve.

    But, just my 2cents. I can't make heads or tails of the grids (even after Doc's awesome posts).

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    Default Sparkling vision?

    I could have sworn I read somewhere that Zac looked up and saw all the jewels sparkeling in the trees, but now I can't find it. I think I am putting more and more together about the things he had never seen before, but can't find that part. Anybody recall that? Then again, I could just be going completely mad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabunk
    But I think the box in Zac's dream is different. "He could see things he had never seen before and he took those things and filled the small boxes with them."
    Page 42, 3rd paragraph. "Zac didn't even believe in Fairies. He had lived his whole life in the Forest and had never seen one."

    Filled the box with the Fairies???

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    Default 5 x 5 Square puzzle

    JamesP wrote: [Page 42, 3rd paragraph. "Zac didn't even believe in Fairies. He had lived his whole life in the Forest and had never seen one."

    Filled the box with the Fairies???]



    James, I really like your different lines of htinking. I think we do need to "think out of the box" concerning THE BOX....I am leaning at times towards the diagrams you posted earlier...some type of diamond which has *A* side of 5 (the vertical and horizontal dimensions in the diamond)

    Secondly...I thinks you are right on about him never seeing fairies before, filling his box with 12 or 13 fairies, and knowing exactly where to find the jewels. We've already come to assume that the fairies know exactly where the jewels are.

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    Default Re: Sparkling vision?

    Quote Originally Posted by ellekaydee
    I could have sworn I read somewhere that Zac looked up and saw all the jewels sparkeling in the trees, but now I can't find it. I think I am putting more and more together about the things he had never seen before, but can't find that part. Anybody recall that? Then again, I could just be going completely mad!
    Could you be thinking of page 64.. while flower fairies darted among the trees gathering up the jewels that Rusful had hung on the petrified branches.

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    I was thinking the same thing about Zac never seeing fairies before so we might need to put faries in the boxes. But I was also thinking about how and why Zac had the dream. Now we all know that Ana couldn't talk to Zac through her mind, BUT Ana COULD talk to faries this way. And not just any old faries, I'm talking about Flower Faries specificly. Why? Well, in the book Ye Nomenclature of Faeries, it said that Flower Fairies could whisper a tune in your ear while you slept and you would hum that tune all day long.

    Now, what if Ana told the Flower Faries to let Zac know where she is and to tell him where the jewels are. All the Flower Fairies had to do was whisper it into his ear.

    Dont know if this will go anywhere but just a thought.

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    I'm new here so please cut me some slack. I like thinking out of the box... pun intended.

    I see plenty of ways to make "an open box that was [is] as long as it was [is] wide and inside the box were [are] smaller boxes arranged in rows, five to a side."

    It does not say "5X5" or "square" or "25 boxes."

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    ...another thing about a box....

    If the box is hinged properly, you could lift the lid and open the box
    like a book with the underside of the lid having compartments like
    the bottom of the box!

    ...just food for thought!

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    Default 5...5...5

    Something to think about...

    A pentagon has 5 sides, 5 numbers on each side adds up to 25!

    also it says.."A Code of Numbers Five to a Side”.
    and “The Secret is Not Half But is Not Whole"

    5 is not a whole number...but its half way to 6 and commonly used as .5 for half.

    this reinforces the number 5.
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