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    I know a lot of you (including me) have been convinced that the key to this is the 5x5 grid.

    Let’s look at it in a different way for a moment.

    On Page 70 it says: “The jewels fit perfectly in the twelve compartments of the box under the bed.” On Page 87 in Zac’s dream it says: “As long as it is wide”.

    The only way you can have 12 compartments and have the box as long as it is wide to for it to look like this:



    Ok now lets refer to the poem: “A code of numbers five to a side” and “The secret is not half but is not whole”.

    Lets take that above image and rotate it 90CW. We come up with the image below.



    This leaves us with many possibilities:
    We can now fill the box with the twelve jewels.
    It has “A Code of Numbers Five to a Side”.
    It fits “The Secret is Not Half But is Not Whole. (The code of numbers doesn’t use the whole STAR and doesn’t use half of it.)
    Page 49 and 19 have references to this star pattern, i.e. ruler hinge.
    It can also be used as a clock or a compass.



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    James,
    Looks like you could be on to something here, I just wish I had an idea of where the next step is.. Maybe one of our Brainy members will come up with something.. Great work.. Denise
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    WOW...

    What a great way to look at it!

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    To add a little more detail.

    Often fighter pilots use a clock to point out a particular direction. Dragonfly uses this type of lingo, something about (off the top of my head), "formation delta".

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    Nice detailed work. The only concern I have is that the box that Zac made for Ana is entirely different than the box that Zac finds at the grotto before he starts putting the "clues" in them. The grotto box (5x5) is the key to everything however.

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    I have stated somewhere here that the order of the forrest creatures is important.
    With this grid, could we apply the forrest creatures in an order as stated.

    Pg 22 states Dragonfly as Air Group leader.
    Pg 23 states Spier as Ground Force leader.
    (the order of this spider army is listed on page 25)
    Pg 25,26 lists (the order of dragonfly airforce)
    Pg 29 states Dragonfly as Air Corp Force leader and Spider as Ground Force leader. Dragon would go above the Spider.

    Pg 34 changes order with Lady bug becoming the new Group Leader.
    Notice order listed in the text ("teaming up each creature) and order of the sillouete below....
    Pg 96 has order of forest creatures.
    Pg 98 has order of forest creatures.

    Pg 103 has sillouete reversed.

    I am sure there are others. Will keep checking.

    I like the grid you shared James P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATARI CARTEL
    Nice detailed work. The only concern I have is that the box that Zac made for Ana is entirely different than the box that Zac finds at the grotto before he starts putting the "clues" in them. The grotto box (5x5) is the key to everything however.
    That’s where the problem lies; we don’t know the size of the box.

    Page 49 “The two perfectly matched halves would complete the top of Ana’s jewel box.”

    This means the top of the box is in two pieces and they match exactly. It does refer to any shape.

    Page 87 “Before him lay an open box that was as long as it was wide and inside the box were smaller boxes arranged in rows, five to a side.”

    “As long as it was wide” – Not to beat a dead horse but this doesn’t mean it’s square.

    “Inside the box were smaller boxes arranged in rows, five to a side.” – So if the original theory is correct about the 5x5 grid, the smaller boxes are in a box larger then 5x5. What do you do with the open space?



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    Could there be two boxes under the bed?
    One could be the jewelry box that Zac made.
    Could another be a box with a lock, that would click?


    (pg 70.)......The box closed with a click as the Fairires vanished. The sound disturbed Zac's sleep. ( two sentence paragraph???)

    The Nomenclature on pg 37 and 38 both look to me like it has a lock that could click, perhaps like a diary.



    Just more outloud thinking here

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    Well, we do know the box contained 12 compartments. (pg 70) "the jewels fit perfectly in the twelve compartments of the box"

    pg 50, "Zac...sanded the final corner" so it's not round.


    In the table of contents, there is a picture by Chapter fifteen, which I'd assume to be the jewelry box.

    I'd guess it to be a rectangle, but should the picture be misleading, I'd have to go with triangle, as some of the jewels would be smaller than others (ladybug) so the only way she'd fit perfectly would be at the top. BUT, it could be a square if the sizes of the compartments were different, like the #71 illusion in the CB.

    I really like this train of thought....!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesP
    Quote Originally Posted by ATARI CARTEL
    Nice detailed work. The only concern I have is that the box that Zac made for Ana is entirely different than the box that Zac finds at the grotto before he starts putting the "clues" in them. The grotto box (5x5) is the key to everything however.
    That’s where the problem lies; we don’t know the size of the box.

    Page 49 “The two perfectly matched halves would complete the top of Ana’s jewel box.”

    This means the top of the box is in two pieces and they match exactly. It does refer to any shape.

    Page 87 “Before him lay an open box that was as long as it was wide and inside the box were smaller boxes arranged in rows, five to a side.”

    “As long as it was wide” – Not to beat a dead horse but this doesn’t mean it’s square.

    “Inside the box were smaller boxes arranged in rows, five to a side.” – So if the original theory is correct about the 5x5 grid, the smaller boxes are in a box larger then 5x5. What do you do with the open space?



    Open those minds people and tweleve.org will solve it.
    Whatever dead horse you beat, I missed---clue me in here---How is a box as long as it is wide NOT a square?

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