1. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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Matching these seeds with the sleeve seems like a great idea. But, my only question is if one excludes the 5 key seeds from the message, then you have an odd number of seeds left.

Just an observation...

Cheers,

Matching these seeds with the sleeve seems like a great idea. But, my only question is if one excludes the 5 key seeds from the message, then you have an odd number of seeds left.

Just an observation...

Cheers,

There's no reason to exclude the key seeds from the message.

3. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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Originally Posted by Jep

There's no reason to exclude the key seeds from the message.
Quite true, Jep. Just a thought...

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Or you could exclude the 'key' seeds and the 1st seed coming out of the dandelion as you can only see half of it anyway. Then you have an even number of seeds again!

just a thought...
WM

5. I've got it! I've got it!

I just decoded 'krap feces sp!'

That's Krap -with a 'K' - not to be confused with the 'C'rap state park.

I think this is my sign that I'm up a creek.....

Taran

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Or when not using the key seeds, drop the use of the "shadow seed". It is the twentieth seed when counting clockwise. My book shows an outline offset slightly.

SilverWA

7. ## Seeds on 5x5

It appears that Dailyk's friend cavefish has figured out a solution using the seeds which fits the other token puzzles.

Its on the "my friend is looking..." string.

He says he used the seeds, used the grid, and came up with a location that did not need to be anagramed.

8. Needs to say Hello!
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Has anyone else tried a dot-to-dot drawing on the seeds? Something like the other drawings in the book?

9. Originally Posted by Jep
Any ideas on why these dandies exist?
Thanks for collecting info! Great to see in one place!

Do you think this is any different than the extra acorns, leaves, grass, etc. throughout the book? MS seems to put extras in so we have to guess which are the real clues.

10. Here's my solutions with the grid forward and backward:

PBXGSMNULKCXLHBIC
VBSGXMOYLKCSLHBJC
KBYGNTSORPDYRIBHD
VBNGYTUXRPDNRIBJD
KBUGOZXNWVEUWJBHE
PBOGUZYSWVEOWJBIE
PCWMRGIUHFBWHLCNB
VCRMWGJYHFBRHLCOB
FCYMITRJSPDYSNCLD
VCIMYTUWSPDISNCOD
FCUMJZWIXVEUXOCLE
PCJMUZYRXVEJXOCNE
KDWTLGHOIFBWIRDSB
VDLTWGJXIFBLIRDUB
FDXTHMLJNKCXNSDRC
VDHTXMOWNKCHNSDUC
FDOTJZWHYVEOYUDRE
KDJTOZXLYVEJYUDSE
KERZLGHNJFBRJWEXB
PELZRGISJFBLJWEYB
FESZHMLIOKCSOXEWC
PEHZSMNROKCHOXEYC
FENZITRHUPDNUYEWD
KEIZNTSLUPDIUYEXD
RFXASMNUKLHXKCFDH
WFSAXMOYKLHSKCFEH
LFYANTSOPRIYPDFCI
WFNAYTUXPRINPDFEI
LFUAOZXNVWJUVEFCJ
RFOAUZYSVWJOVEFDJ
WHPMVAEYCBFPCKHOF
BHYMDTPESRIYSNHKI
WHDMYTUVSRIDSNHOI
BHUMEZVDXWJUXOHKJ
RHEMUZYPXWJEXOHNJ
LIVTKACODBFVDPISF
WIKTVAEXDBFKDPIUF
BIXTCMKENLHXNSIPH
WICTXMOVNLHCNSIUH
BIOTEZVCYWJOYUIPJ
LIETOZXKYWJEYUISJ
LJPZKACNEBFPEVJXF
BJSZCMKDOLHSOXJVH
RJCZSMNPOLHCOXJYH
BJNZDTPCURINUYJVI
LJDZNTSKURIDUYJXI
SKWARGIUFHLWFBKDL
XKRAWGJYFHLRFBKEL
HKYAITRJPSNYPDKBN
XKIAYTUWPSNIPDKEN
HKUAJZWIVXOUVEKBO
SKJAUZYRVXOJVEKDO
XLPGVAEYBCKPBFLJK
CLYGDTPERSNYRILFN
XLDGYTUVRSNDRILJN
CLUGEZVDWXOUWJLFO
SLEGUZYPWXOEWJLIO
HNVTFABJDCKVDPNRK
XNFTVAEWDCKFDPNUK
CNWTBGFEIHLWIRNPL
XNBTWGJVIHLBIRNUL
CNJTEZVBYXOJYUNPO
HNETJZWFYXOEYUNRO
HOPZFABIECKPEVOWK
CORZBGFDJHLRJWOVL
SOBZRGIPJHLBJWOYL
COIZDTPBUSNIUYOVN
HODZITRFUSNDUYOWN
NPWALGHOFIRWFBPCR
YPLAWGJXFIRLFBPER
IPXAHMLJKNSXKCPBS
YPHAXMOWKNSHKCPES
IPOAJZWHVYUOVEPBU
NPJAOZXLVYUJVEPCU
NRVGKACOBDPVBFRHP
YRKGVAEXBDPKBFRJP
DRXGCMKELNSXLHRFS
YRCGXMOVLNSCLHRJS
DROGEZVCWYUOWJRFU
NREGOZXKWYUEWJRHU
ISVMFABJCDPVCKSLP
YSFMVAEWCDPFCKSOP
DSWMBGFEHIRWHLSKR
YSBMWGJVHIRBHLSOR
DSJMEZVBXYUJXOSKU
ISEMJZWFXYUEXOSLU
IUKZFABHEDPKEVUWP
NUFZKACLEDPFEVUXP
DULZBGFCJIRLJWUVR
NUBZLGHKJIRBJWUXR
DUHZCMKBONSHOXUVS
IUCZHMLFONSCOXUWS
OVRALGHNFJWRFBVCW
UVLARGISFJWLFBVDW
JVSAHMLIKOXSKCVBX
UVHASMNRKOXHKCVDX
JVNAITRHPUYNPDVBY
OVIANTSLPUYIPDVCY
OWPGKACNBEVPBFWHV
EWSGCMKDLOXSLHWFX
UWCGSMNPLOXCLHWIX
EWNGDTPCRUYNRIWFY
OWDGNTSKRUYDRIWHY
JXPMFABICEVPCKXLV
EXRMBGFDHJWRHLXKW
UXBMRGIPHJWBHLXNW
EXIMDTPBSUYISNXKY
JXDMITRFSUYDSNXLY
JYKTFABHDEVKDPYRV
OYFTKACLDEVFDPYSV
EYLTBGFCIJWLIRYPW
OYBTLGHKIJWBIRYSW
EYHTCMKBNOXHNSYPX
JYCTHMLFNOXCNSYRX

reverse grid:

DFOGNMSYHCKOHLFRK
EFNGOMXUHCKNHLFWK
CFUGSTNXIDPUIRFLP
EFSGUTYOIDPSIRFWP
CFYGXZOSJEVYJWFLV
DFXGYZUNJEVXJWFRV
DKJMIGRYLBFJLHKSF
EKIMJGWULBFILHKXF
BKUMRTIWNDPUNSKHP
EKRMUTYJNDPRNSKXP
BKYMWZJROEVYOXKHV
DKWMYZUIOEVWOXKSV
CPJTHGLXRBFJRIPNF
EPHTJGWORBFHRIPYF
BPOTLMHWSCKOSNPIK
EPLTOMXJSCKLSNPYK
BPXTWZJLUEVXUYPIV
CPWTXZOHUEVWUYPNV
CVIZHGLSWBFIWJVOF
DVHZIGRNWBFHWJVUF
BVNZLMHRXCKNXOVJK
DVLZNMSIXCKLXOVUK
BVSZRTILYDPSYUVJP
CVRZSTNHYDPRYUVOP
IBOANMSYCHLOCKBPL
JBNAOMXUCHLNCKBVL
HBUASTNXDIRUDPBKR
JBSAUTYODIRSDPBVR
HBYAXZOSEJWYEVBKW
IBXAYZUNEJWXEVBPW
ILEMDAPYKFBEKCLSB
JLDMEAVUKFBDKCLXB
FLUMPTDVNIRUNSLCR
JLPMUTYENIRPNSLXR
FLYMVZEPOJWYOXLCW
ILVMYZUDOJWVOXLSW
HRETCAKXPFBEPDRNB
JRCTEAVOPFBCPDRYB
FROTKMCVSHLOSNRDL
JRKTOMXESHLKSNRYL
FRXTVZEKUJWXUYRDW
HRVTXZOCUJWVUYRNW
HWDZCAKSVFBDVEWOB
IWCZDAPNVFBCVEWUB
FWNZKMCPXHLNXOWEL
IWKZNMSDXHLKXOWUL
FWSZPTDKYIRSYUWER
HWPZSTNCYIRPYUWOR
NCJAIGRYBLHJBFCPH
OCIAJGWUBLHIBFCVH
LCUARTIWDNSUDPCFS
OCRAUTYJDNSRDPCVS
LCYAWZJREOXYEVCFX
NCWAYZUIEOXWEVCPX
NHEGDAPYFKCEFBHRC
OHDGEAVUFKCDFBHWC
KHUGPTDVINSUIRHBS
OHPGUTYEINSPIRHWS
KHYGVZEPJOXYJWHBX
NHVGYZUDJOXVJWHRX
LSETBAFWPKCEPDSIC
OSBTEAVJPKCBPDSYC
KSJTFGBVRLHJRISDH
OSFTJGWERLHFRISYH
KSWTVZEFUOXWUYSDX
LSVTWZJBUOXVUYSIX
LXDZBAFRVKCDVEXJC
NXBZDAPIVKCBVEXUC
KXIZFGBPWLHIWJXEH
NXFZIGRDWLHFWJXUH
KXRZPTDFYNSRYUXES
LXPZRTIBYNSPYUXJS
SDJAHGLXBRIJBFDKI
UDHAJGWOBRIHBFDVI
RDOALMHWCSNOCKDFN
UDLAOMXJCSNLCKDVN
RDXAWZJLEUYXEVDFY
SDWAXZOHEUYWEVDKY
SIEGCAKXFPDEFBILD
UICGEAVOFPDCFBIWD
PIOGKMCVHSNOHLIBN
UIKGOMXEHSNKHLIWN
PIXGVZEKJUYXJWIBY
SIVGXZOCJUYVJWILY
RNEMBAFWKPDEKCNHD
UNBMEAVJKPDBKCNXD
PNJMFGBVLRIJLHNCI
UNFMJGWELRIFLHNXI
PNWMVZEFOUYWOXNCY
RNVMWZJBOUYVOXNHY
RYCZBAFLVPDCVEYJD
SYBZCAKHVPDBVEYOD
PYHZFGBKWRIHWJYEI
SYFZHGLCWRIFWJYOI
PYLZKMCFXSNLXOYEN
RYKZLMHBXSNKXOYJN
XEIAHGLSBWJIBFEKJ
YEHAIGRNBWJHBFEPJ
WENALMHRCXONCKEFO
YELANMSICXOLCKEPO
WESARTILDYUSDPEFU
XERASTNHDYURDPEKU
XJDGCAKSFVEDFBJLE
YJCGDAPNFVECFBJRE
VJNGKMCPHXONHLJBO
YJKGNMSDHXOKHLJRO
VJSGPTDKIYUSIRJBU
XJPGSTNCIYUPIRJLU
WODMBAFRKVEDKCOHE
YOBMDAPIKVEBKCOSE
VOIMFGBPLWJILHOCJ
YOFMIGRDLWJFLHOSJ
VORMPTDFNYURNSOCU
WOPMRTIBNYUPNSOHU
WUCTBAFLPVECPDUIE
XUBTCAKHPVEBPDUNE
VUHTFGBKRWJHRIUDJ
XUFTHGLCRWJFRIUNJ
VULTKMCFSXOLSNUDO
WUKTLMHBSXOKSNUIO

I don't know if im going in the correct order for the dandelion seeds so that would throw off some letters