# Thread: Chapter 13 - Pride

1. I'm seeing a lot of nudges - the problem is which one applies to the brands...

Gotta go back to school..

2. Looking again at page 35. Pretty sure what brands are legit and which are not, but I am not seeing anything on this page that would be a nudge as to how to interpret the brands into letters, like a substitution. Could be as easy as ABC in a spiral or they could be random alphabet. How is one to tell? COuld the "nudge" be on a different page for this?

3. It certainly is an interesting puzzle.

4. ...some must go

5. Originally Posted by Domino
...some must go
OK - definitely know which have to go - still scratching on the order though..

6. Originally Posted by stvwz
OK - definitely know which have to go - still scratching on the order though..
As with every puzzle in the book, there is a hint in there....

7. of course....but WHERE?

Originally Posted by Domino
As with every puzzle in the book, there is a hint in there....

8. Originally Posted by stvwz
of course....but WHERE?
It will come around...

9. There it was that we see this from an important vantage point.

Originally Posted by Domino
It will come around...

10. Time to pick this book up again. I took a long break out of frustration. But I want to see this solved.

Questions...

Are all of the letters of the alphabet represented in the grid? (or at least 25 of them?)

If so, are they arranged alphabetically?

Is there something that determines a starting point?

Once we determine the letters, can they be applied in one place or in two places?

What do they tell us? Is it something important? Or are we wasting our time trying to figure this one out?

I don't know if anyone has solved the brands yet. I know this particular puzzle in the book has been a thorn in my side. I just thought I would throw these questions out there and see if I could spark any interest, or if anyone could offer any hints or advice.