# Thread: Bigger 5 x 5 + FAIRY BREAKTHROUGH!

1. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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Cool find. I sketched out the same 5x5 grid yesterday from the same clues, so I was glad to find someone else's results matched.

Reminds me of another thought I've had. I am very suspicious of faint smudges of watercolor being interpreted as letters and numbers and, frankly, a lot of theories that get thrown around on these boards are pretty farfetched. So, I'm thinking that the really faint/oddball clues are just hints and diversions (like identifying a state) and the encoding of actual locations is (hopefully) more precise (once you find the method). What I like about the ordering of letters in the grid is that it has redundant reinforcing clues:

1) no Q
2) 25 = 5 x 5
3) A 'Z' in 2,2 means an 'S' in 5,5
4) An 'S' if 5,5 means a 'Z' in 2,2

Now, if there was just a concrete, ordered series of numbers...

2. Originally Posted by cmpalmer

3) A 'Z' in 2,2 means an 'S' in 5,5
4) An 'S' if 5,5 means a 'Z' in 2,2

Now, if there was just a concrete, ordered series of numbers...
Lost me there.

3. Originally Posted by cmpalmer

Now, if there was just a concrete, ordered series of numbers...
Try...
3,1
1,1
2,4
2,1
3,1
1,4
5,3
1,4
2,5
1,1
5,3
3,4
4,3
5,1
2,2
1,4

Or...

5,1
2,4
2,1
3,1
1,4
5,3
1,4
2,5
1,1
5,3
3,4
4,3
5,1
2,2
1,4

4. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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Originally Posted by pcalton
Originally Posted by cmpalmer

3) A 'Z' in 2,2 means an 'S' in 5,5
4) An 'S' if 5,5 means a 'Z' in 2,2

Now, if there was just a concrete, ordered series of numbers...
Lost me there.
I just mean that either fairy picture by itself is ambiguous, but taken together they reinforce each other.

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## off track

I think this is off track.

I think the poem means there's an even code, one piece nary that will spell out the sanctuary.

then, with THAT code in hand, the faires (13) point to 13 chapters where you apply a/the code to reveal the location spelled out in the text.

I don't think we fill the box with anything from the chapter headers, it just seems misleading.

but i do believe we fill the box with something to do with fairies the way Zac did in the story. So how do you fill the boxes with fairies without filling them with the letters the fairies point to? Welcome to my world.

6. I really like this train of thought, and wish I had read it earlier. Oh well.

I like the TH letter-ization. Look at "Ye Nomenclature of Faeries" under 'Flower Faeries' and count how many 'TH' combinations there are. In this instance, 'TH' merits its own grid square.

However, I believe the first 'Z' flower fairy is pointing to 2,3 on page 16. Also, in the text on page 17, pook takes 'a hard two or three bounce'.

PP

7. ## Pointing to...

I have been kicking around the idea that the faeiries are pointing to the point where two squares within the 5x5 code meet. It always seems that they are not pointing to the center of a square. One interpretation of this is that the two adjoining letters around where the faeirie is pointing could be a two letter state abbriviation. If a faeirie points to the junction of an I and an L, that can mean IL = Illinois.

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## Nomenclature?

Wow! I think I have finally got the anagram for "Ye Nomenclature of Faeries"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CLUE: NEE NAME OFFERS RATIO"

Helens maiden name is "Demetrios"

9 letters with "TRIO" 3x3 is 9

Okay, now how can I use it? Argh! Help! Any ideas?

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Wow! I think I have finally got the anagram for "Ye Nomenclature of Faeries"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/b]CLUE: NEE NAME OFFERS RATIO"[b]

Helens maiden name is "Demetrios"

9 letters with "TRIO" 3x3 is 9

Okay, now how can I use it? Argh! Help! Any ideas?
One thought if you're looking for a ratio: "Deme" could refer to "half"

-db

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Thank you! I forgot the Y. As in Clue: Nee name offers ratio=Y
Does this make sense? I'm not the best with math. Maybe I'm thinking of a common denominator of 3. My thoughts were:
3 classes of fairies
12 is divisible by 3
Zac and Ana both have 3 letters
Is not half but is not whole...could be 1/3 but could be 12 divided by 3 which is 1/4. Could also be bacause it is not "whole" it is "hole".

Either way...thanks so much DaveBrax for your input. Once again your thoughts are getting me thinking!