# Thread: Solutions for Chapters 1, 2, and 3

1. Just noticed something strange... or else I'm missing something.

Chapter 3 winning submission took the first 10 CAPITAL LETTERS starting from the beginning of the chapter...

I just re-worked the solution to see if it would give me some insight into how Ron thinks and maybe help me with Chapter 4...

What I noticed is that close to the bottom of page 53, 4th last paragraph, there is text that has a CAPITAL "J" that must have been skipped in order to get the winning submission. How on Earth would somebody know to skip some random letter? Or have I completely missed something here?

2. The J was an inserted poem letter. Inserted letters have been ignored in chapter solutions to date.

3. Ok, I see what you mean, thanks for clarifying!

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Originally Posted by Doc
To solve chapter 1, we would need the following clues:

1. The numbers of the map = alphabet letters
2. The solution consists of two groups of ten letters
3. Collect the letters beginning on p 1, paragraph 1; collect the remaining letters beginning on p 7, paragraph 23

I am approaching this as logically and simply as possible.

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Greetings, it's been a while.

What if it was meant to be page 7 line 4 instead of page 7 paragraph 23? Where did you get 23 from?

Go look at chapter questions 7 and 4. These questions stood out in my mind among the rest. Why repeat yourself, and guess what's in between?
Next, for Q20 answer, the first part is
WARR .-- .- .-. .-. , but rearranging we get .- - . -. ATEN
Granted, you could re-arrange so many different ways, and the rest doesn't work, but I thought I'd point it out. My mistake was trying to figure more out, when I should have used it as a simple queue of where to look in the book.

There is probably more to this line of thinking, I just haven't figured out the rest yet, or looked at the other two chapters. I've always thought those questions must have another purpose.

5. I would like to believe that there are links between the questions and or sudoku puzzles to locate the sequences. But, I cannot. The solutions with missing keys are just the author's way of controlling the timing of when a chapter is solved based on releasing Facebook clues. For Chapter one, many like myself found the sequence of 19 and thought we were wrong because we didn't find all 20. Never imagined it to be pages away. I don't even believe that there is a golden eagle sequence buried within the text. At this rate, chapter 13 will be solved in the year 2024.

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Originally Posted by gizmo2337
Next, for Q20 answer, the first part is
WARR .-- .- .-. .-. , but rearranging we get .- - . -. ATEN
I've lost my notes from Chapter 1 due to a laptop failure a while back. Can someone remind me the exact "what comes before U clue from CH1?" You encrypt what comes before U or something like that as my memory serves?

What comes before U is T (Q20). I encrypted the answer using morse code as the Q implies as above, and re-arranged to get the first four keys. This still seems significant to me. Or maybe a fluke based on common letters?

Ironically, you can also decode a "=" and "start" from the same sequence. I'm not ready to give up on that line of thinking just yet.

On another note,
In Q5C2 contains the page number where to look for that chapter. Even stranger, is the repetition of the 4 and 7 again from chapter one.

Thoughts?

7. As it currently stands, it does not appear that a single chapter has been solved using the actual intended clues sprinkled throughout the book, on the website, etc. C1 at least discovered the stick/7 and ATEN, but C2/C3 used close to 0% of the intended clues in the book. That's a great pity.

The reason for the zero progress is simple: there is no way to know whether you are on the right track or not.

The greatest improvement that could be made to this hunt is if a clue was released for each chapter that lets us know whether we are on the right track or not -- whether a VALIDATOR we have found is a real validator or a random coincidence of letters.

I have now found approximately 10 Chapter 4 alpha sequences with "validators" as good, or better than C1's "ATEN" (and that also match facebook clues). I haven't got the foggiest idea which, if any, is the real validator, and which are herrings, or accidental, or unintentional, or coincidences, because all are equally plausible, and none of the published facebook clues reference validation or reward discovery.

I have found lots of stuff. I do believe that there are many clues for each chapter in the book. I have put together some intruiging things. But nothing can be trusted, because when you're dealing with random strings of letters, the accidental far exceeds the intended.
Chapter 4, for example, I think I know the page(s) where the sequences are. But, unless you know the very specific LETTER to start at you could be pecking around in letter-hell for eons, being led astray by unintended validators.

We need a validator for the intended validators in the hunt.

We badly need a clue FOR EVERY CHAPTER that very simply states:

"You will know you are on the right track if you find... *some specific hint*"
(For chapter 1, this could have been: You will know you are on the right track if you find a number" (ATEN) )

This would at least give someone a fighting chance of ever solving a chapter using the clues in the book. As it stands, I have long given up trying to solve future chapters, as the random noise far exceeds intentional clues.

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Ok, I've been away for a bit, and got a bit disgruntled with needing a second book for ch2. I'm still stuck in ch1 thinking, trying to sort it out as I know those clues the best. I picked up the book recently again and went through ch4, but honestly, I haven't even submitted a solution yet.

I'm not looking for a way to solve future chapters. I'm sure that isn't possible. Why would an author do that? His job is to teach us how to solve this mistery of a treasure hunt that we still don't understand. Perhaps we need the end (CH12) to understand the beginning and fill in the blanks. Yes, there is lots of random noise. We just need to comb through it? I've enjoyed the posts and thoughts of many on this board, and I'm just catching up again for a years worth. My favourite ones are the random thoughts of fed up questers. I'm not sure who wins that category, but it is only funny because we've all thought such random things among the noise at one point or another.

Ok. Back to business for CH1. Is there any way to link
[T] (Q20) to [O] (Q15) or (Q in CH1?
without the chapter text? and is there any relation to C2Q17?

First dogo answer gets a medal at the olympic river in columbia to receive a peace of pi?

9. Gizmo,
We are all pretty stupid bacause after a year, there is no correct solution yet to chapter 4. Ron has stated in his clues that the solution is easy so just use a comb and that the answer is easier than you think. Don't feel bad if you cannot find a link to the questions for each chapter and the solution. Apparently only idiots purchased The World's Greatest Treasure Hunt.

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So, I went back and re-hashed some CH1 again without facebook clues. Of course it helps knowing the answer ahead of time, just trying to find some meaning using Doc's theory to see if there is some merit.

Doc,
My favourite has always been CH1Q20. If we were starting at the beginning, then we have A-Q1. Denham. So how would be find Q20? Perhaps we needed at least two keys to even start? The morse code for Q20 reads
.-- .- .-. .-. .. --- .-. WARRIOR, but re-arranging, you can get
.- - . -. -..- ...-- -.-. ATENX3C, where the O is missing.
.- - . -. -.. -...- --.- . ATEND=QE, you can read that one two ways. AT END or A TEN D (A TEN 4 in radio talk meaning done). 17=Q happens to be the last key for C1
.- - . -. -.. -...- - - . -. ATEND=TTEN, interesting that 10=J was one of the last two keys.
.- - . -. -.. -...- -- . -. ATEND=MEN, interesting, only because CH1 answer denham, and only the H is missing, which is the last key for alpha.
-..- . -.- -.-- -...- . - XEKY=ET, if you reverse the dots and dashes, you can get this. The next two keys in the sequence backwards are ET. Could be coincidence based on letter numbers.

Thinking out loud here. Of course, it could just be facebook clues the rest of the way through. It seems likely, but I can't just give up quite yet, especially when now that we have actually used the chapter questions.