1. Junior Twelever +1 Bronze
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Thanks, Sluggy.

I think I got it.

Taking the F.U.C.H. numbers from Geocache - 22525 00942 47674 - let's put those like this:

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5
25
0
0
9
4
24
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6
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4

Given that it's already been established there are 25 puzzles (including the Blocks) and 25 rows of said blocks, this arrangement fits within the structure of the entire Torment chain.

Now, we take those numbers and assign them to their respective puzzle numbers (i.e. #2 was the Angel in the forest, 0 is the title page). Next we write the answers that led to each puzzle (which would be the name of the page that puzzle is on) next to each number (which will not be done here for obvious reasons).
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Ok, so now we have our list, let's look at them for how they relate to an encryption method used in Torment:

2 Rotation (based on the answer from puzzle #1, not the method used to find that answer)
2 Rotation (again, same reason)
5 the answer to the puzzle, which is a word that has a specific meaning in a certain language
25 Anagram
0 Rotation (0=beginning, which in this case means repeat the first step)
0 Rotation
9 The-Book-Of-The-Film reference (not giving spoilers, but those who know, know)
4 Rot-13
24 famous location
7 The-Book-Of-The-Film reference again
6 famous location (close to target of puzzle #6?)
7 The-Book-Of-The-Film reference
4 Rot-13

Breaking down this even further, we start at the top of the list and use a standard Rotation cipher on the first line, which is WACEPHWBZBYEFPCULJ
Take that response and Rotate it the same way to get UYHWLEWAJFBCXPZEXCBP

Now, there's a word hidden in there, and that word is an anagram. Let's use the numbers that GG left us at Geocache and extract these letters:
225250094247674
yylyljwywweww (Zero is a space, or blank spot, so we have 2 spaces - let's close them up as they're just meant to distract us)

Next, we find the hidden anagram. We see a lot of Ys and Ws. There's also a couple of Ls.
Speaking it phonetically we see Ys (Wise), J, E, Ws (Jews), and Ls (ells) - so we get wisejewsells - A Wise Jew Sells.

What we're looking for here is "wisejewsells", so let's put that in our Rotating blender and spin it, then spin that answer to get seesijslwewl.

Now we arrive at our Rot-13 step, and we get frrfvwfyjrjy.

Remembering that this is all about obfuscation - hiding in plain sight - we go with the obvious: France. (.fr is the W3C code for France)

This, of course, is the Famous Location for the next step.

Sticking with the theme earlier in the game, we know this is where we get into a related series of parts. We know we're in France, and the Book deals mostly with a certain city in France, and specifically a certain Museum in said city, but we're looking for something specific from the book that relates directly to Torment.

How about the number that was written on the floor? 1123581321

Put this in a Letter Number cipher to get AAWEHACU.

Now we come to the last step: another Rot-13.
And we arrive at: NNJRUNPH

Repeat that entire process for each line, and join me at the next puzzle.

2. Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein
Repeat that entire process for each line, and join me at the next puzzle.
WHOA!!!
hang on just a sec.

are you telling us that you solved the blocks???

3. Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein
I think I got it.
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Repeat that entire process for each line, and join me at the next puzzle.
Wow

Originally Posted by greengecko
Originally Posted by possum652
...care to comment on how close we are??
Not all those who wander are lost!
And I was thinking that this morning's crypticness meant that at least one of us was venturing down the correct path already and just hadn't quite gotten it right.

4. Drnewcenstein, where did you get the inspiration to do all that?

5. Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein
Thanks, Sluggy.

I think I got it.
after that, i am completely lost, but seeing as how it's about 3 hours past my bed time, perhaps i can make sense of it tomorrow...or actually, later today...

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you.... are simply amazing.... I feel as though I owe you like.. a drink or something even though I'm sitting here with my notebook going "WTF" and wanting to claw off my face.

This is normal for torment puzzles so no worries except I understand the process just can't... make the connections like how you got "a wise jew sells"

7. I'm glad I'm wearing my boots.

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Dr Newcenstein you are truly a modern-day superhero.

I could have worked on this puzzle for 10 lifetimes and moved not one bit closer towards the approach you posted. Not that I understand your solution, but hopefully when I get some time I'll be able to take a little peek at the next level. Simply stunning work, we are greatly in your debt!

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/\/\ I'm just stunned you had the perseverance to even try such a convoluted process seemingly requiring multiple leaps of faith for each part of the sequence, I am so curious to know what prompted you to keep going to the end of the process? And in terms of the puzzle design was there a simpler way to get to the same endpoint? Anyway, I sure won't be attempting the next stage of the puzzle haha!! Thanks again for releasing us Dr!

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"The essential element in the black art of obscurantism is not that it wants to darken individual understanding but that it wants to blacken our picture of the world, and darken our idea of existence" (Vol. II, Part 1, 27).[/quote] [edit: sorry I stuffed up the quote box thingy ha!]

Hehe that's a gem Knocka!!
ha, certainly had the desired effect in my case...