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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein View Post
    I'm not feeling tiptop myself, but perhaps the virus expands the mind a bit, allowing for better rationale.

    Or not.
    I wish!

    Oh, one more thing before I take my leave once more; /x/ - Paranormal you have no idea how much this made me laugh, I just had to post it on /x/; well played!

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    Dr. This is interesting. so how do you know which alphabet to apply on which line? I understand you're using 4 alphabets and your concern for a "forced result"
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    Someone duped my old "wisejewsells" thing from unfiction lol

    As for the alphabets, you basically string together words. It's still a bit forced, but not as bad.

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    Ah ok, I misunderstood - you're the one who copied it there.

    I couldn't pass up the chance to pull that joke back then


    Still making slow progress on the blocks. So far I've added only 2 words since the last update.

    Code:
    WACEPFHWBZBYEFPCULJ
    asiftheycoudlntrevo
    EZFIMOQTAKATFBXMLDQJ
    laetiguesiseefinejus
    RPNCLYMBRJFGGDNSRW
    tmixshiftsnotthenu
    MJTPSVTYIXHZCQKLQGUJF
    nlikeevenduallinebreak
    "As if! They couldn't revolate, I guess. I see. Fine. Just mix shifts. NOT! Then unlike even line break...."


    and the next word is either "junk" or "sent". Maybe. I dunno.


    I am starting to notice certain groupings that lean towards indicating whether or not you're looking at a new word as opposed to a partial word (certain consonant-vowel relationships and choices), but since I'm only up to line 5, it's really too early to confirm that.

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    OMG


    The next word is "OYNICHV" - Voynich with the V at the end.

    Looks like my joke Unfiction post is becoming prophetic

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    So far it's reading like a laundry list of the Torment solutions up to this point, similar to my Unfiction post.

    The irony is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein View Post
    Ah ok, I misunderstood - you're the one who copied it there.

    I couldn't pass up the chance to pull that joke back then


    Still making slow progress on the blocks. So far I've added only 2 words since the last update.

    Code:
    WACEPFHWBZBYEFPCULJ
    asiftheycoudlntrevo
    EZFIMOQTAKATFBXMLDQJ
    laetiguesiseefinejus
    RPNCLYMBRJFGGDNSRW
    tmixshiftsnotthenu
    MJTPSVTYIXHZCQKLQGUJF
    nlikeevenduallinebreak
    "As if! They couldn't revolate, I guess. I see. Fine. Just mix shifts. NOT! Then unlike even line break...."


    and the next word is either "junk" or "sent". Maybe. I dunno.


    I am starting to notice certain groupings that lean towards indicating whether or not you're looking at a new word as opposed to a partial word (certain consonant-vowel relationships and choices), but since I'm only up to line 5, it's really too early to confirm that.
    Dont want to be the spoilsport here or anything but I still dont see how you're doing it.

    I tried this myself. Course' the first word is actually AH. I'm curious as to how you're getting some of the words though. Are you mixing deciphering and enciphering or something? Considering some of the results are varied to my own. You got THEY when deciphering PHFW and I got the possiblities;

    MKFJ
    TDMT
    KUSD

    Or even mixing the three doesn't provide me with they. If you could clear up the confusion that would be great.
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    Code:
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
    W C D C G H I J K M N O P Q S U V X Z W B T Y L E A
    Z Y T F L E R A C D F G H I J K M N O P Q S U V X R
    R X X Y V U T S R Q P X N M L M J I H G F E D C B W
    J E B W Y D E F G H I V J K G H N Z J V P Q T R W S
    H U Y T X Y L E T A C C D F Z N I A L S K M P N U O
    S Q K X B W V U Q S R E Q P H W B G T E Y J G I D H
      F I U F N O P M O P J V R   T U T V C W L A Y C 
        R M H K P M N L U S I X   G F C E D D X Z E F 
        V J U P W N X V K     H   F D K A X E C F B  
        L Q S Q   O                       R H G   T 
            T     Z                       I       D 
            V
    Hopefully that displays correctly.


    Lay out your 4 alphabets on top of ech other. A-Z, Z-A, WBTYLERA-Z, A-ZWBTYLER.

    Looking at the first line of the puzzle (WACEP), whatever column in your alphabets in which you have a "W", the other letters in that column are available options. At first I tried to stick with a method (normal>reversed>WB+>reverse>WB-) but ran into gibberish quickly. Then I figured it out.

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    As for the translation, I also got "AH" instead of "AS", both of which can fit in the context of the sentence, depending on perspective.

    Also, the part that says "mixed shifts NOT!" can also be "mixed shifts, no T" or "mixed shifts, Poe,...", which is more likely since we've used Poe in this trail.

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    Since the solutions for all other pages have a clear way to solve them with one single key or a clear way of when to change the key, I doubt we'd have to guess for each letter which one to use out of 8 possible ones. Using this method, you can get it to say almost what you want.

    If we have to change key every fifth letter or so, or at each snail/bunny, that would be more likely. The question then is what key to use next... Or do we add a shift?

    That said, I do think you're on to something. Using a keyd caesar with WBTYLER as key, I can see five letter combinations that may be parts of words. (AHIFT, SUCH, TRIED).

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