1. Getting the hang of it. Copper
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Originally Posted by Winnie Winchester
But, mathematically, there are 2 pi in a circle. Double pie! Yum!
So we have two circles then, going mathematically, to give us the magic pi. The guards of 6 and 20 could give us the alphabet backwards. Has anyone noticed that all 26 letters of the alphabet are used throughout the puzzle pages? Could one circle give us the alphabet forwards and the other circle backwards. We'd still have the problem of where to start though
Sorry if this has already been tried, just another pinion Winnie. :P

2. I don't know where I would start but what I did this morning is count all the letters.
All 26 are in the squares indeed, and there is one that only happens once.
That is the X in page 23, so maybe we could use that one as a reference in the circles.

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I agree Opal that we need two circles to give us double pie.

I cannot see that there are two pies in one circle. We are told that 30 x 6 degrees = Pie. That's 180 degrees, or you could read that as diametrically opposite / diameter. Mathematically, the circumference is Pie x Diameter.

That line "Pass the guards of six OR twenty". - We now know that the 6 is degrees, so, by inference the 20 is degrees also. I like your 5 & 7 / 19 & 21 Gabi, so as Opal says that could be read backwards and forwards - "back and forth". But 20 degrees doesn't relate to anything - unless you say 9 x 20 degrees = Pie

And why "Pass", and by how far

4. We have to be careful with pi (π) and pie. 2 pi (π) in a pie.
So one circle is one pie and/or two pi (π). So 30x6 degrees is pi (π).
Does that make more sense to you, Hog?

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Thanks for your explanation Gabi, it's very kind of you. - Trouble is, I still don't understand what Winnie's getting at - but thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by Hog
Thanks for your explanation Gabi, it's very kind of you. - Trouble is, I still don't understand what Winnie's getting at - but thanks for your help.
I didn't say I was being helpful

But all this talk of pie has made me hungry!

Before I go off to stuff myself (a hog-roast might suffice!) let me say that you need to be broad as well as focussed in this hunt. And there is still something that is quite vital to success, indeed it's key to success, that absolutely no one has mentioned in any discussion on any of the boards that are talking about the WT. Now that is a hint!

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So a 'Key'.... we'd need a key to solve a code!

Back to the letters again I think, lot's of ideas to follow up.

Opal

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Oh Winnie ........ a hog roast, how could you ....... don't forget that my poor confused relatives are an endangered species.

So, about this key, what is a broad - and will they talk about it. Are you saying we should form a focus group.

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I think you should think about what you haven't talked about.....

No more hints - it's the weekend and Monday is a holiday here.

10. Something we haven't talked about (much) are the images. We keep talking about the letters and slices of pies, but maybe the images are telling us which pages are important. I don't have the book with me right now, but I know there is a clock in at least one of the illustrations, there is also a bird in another one.